Appreciate your inputs Amogh, Jens, Wei, Jarek, Daniel!

Thanks for clarifying Jarek! Yes, this was my first attempt at LAZY
CONSENSUS, so good learning along the way here.

Will start a different DISCUSS thread.

Warm Regards,
Srabasti Banerjee




On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 12:37 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good idea :) - we have enough of formalising things recently ...
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 9:32 PM Daniel Standish via dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I would suggest maybe we don't need to formalize criteria.
> >
> > Actually, let me suggest... let's just agree on a sort of mission
> statement
> > for the award.
> >
> > E.g. "to recognize meaningful contributions by new contributors" or
> > something.
> >
> > Then people can apply that however it makes sense to them.
> >
> > And if we find that that isn't good enough, we can revisit.
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 11:54 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Just to be clear (because that might be not clear).
> > >
> > > LAZY CONSENSUS is generally broken when someone raises "I think it
> should
> > > be different". So the lazy consensus was broken when doubts were raised
> > by
> > > Amogh, Jens and Wei.
> > > Based on that, I think you should start a new discussion - summarising
> > the
> > > learnings and likely trying to get to "actual" consensus iin the course
> > of
> > > that discussion (if not possible - that should end with the vote. or
> > > dropping the idea if we can't converge to a good consensus.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 8:48 PM Srabasti Banerjee <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your inputs Wei! For your latest response below, my
> concern
> > is
> > > > mandating the criteria to be at least 10 or 5 or 20 PRs to qualify to
> > get
> > > > nominated for Rookie PR, is too high a bar for new contributors.
> Folks
> > > will
> > > > try to focus more on the number of PRs in a month, just to qualify,
> > which
> > > > might lead to low quality PR submissions.
> > > > For a contributor who picks up a challenging PR, and provides a long
> > term
> > > > good quality solution with strategic design, it will be unfair. After
> > > all,
> > > > it takes time to make soup from raw ingredients when cooking:)
> > > >
> > > > Quality over quantity is preferred by the community I think, so we
> > have a
> > > > stable product. Please chime in all 👈.
> > > > Every new contributor has their own personal choice. They will stay
> as
> > > long
> > > > as they get support and recognition from the Airflow community.
> > > >
> > > > *Let's finalize the criteria for Rookie PR and get the ball rolling,
> > > since
> > > > the lazy consensus time has passed already! More awards are yet to
> > start
> > > > after this thread is locked in:)*
> > > >
> > > > Warm Regards,
> > > > Srabasti Banerjee
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 1:15 AM Wei Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The 10 I meant was the minimum required to qualify. The main reason
> > is
> > > > > wanting to keep the newcomer for a bit longer. If this is too
> > strict, 5
> > > > > might also be a good choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Wei
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 9, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Srabasti Banerjee <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes the award should be one time award per person for the same
> > Rookie
> > > > > > award. Else, the same person can win multiple times - that
> defeats
> > > the
> > > > > > criteria of recognizing new contributors, right?
> > > > > > They can win again in another award like Top PR of the Month, no
> > > issues
> > > > > on
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As per original thread, based on consensus from those who voted,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > November PR thread, below were the numbers from first responses.
> > > Hence
> > > > > > chose the majority number 10.
> > > > > > 10 PRs - Wei, Jen
> > > > > > 20 PRs - Pierre
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the minimum, 1 PR submission is needed to qualify, hence put
> it
> > > here
> > > > > > above, for clarity sake.
> > > > > > New contributors would not be in the Top 100 for sure, from so
> far
> > > > > whatever
> > > > > > I have observed so far. We can manually check if needed before
> > voting
> > > > and
> > > > > > deciding results as well, if an exception happens in the future.
> We
> > > can
> > > > > > check via script as well for this. However, I initiated this
> thread
> > > to
> > > > > > finalise the criteria and not the implementation here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure - let us discuss more! The more inputs we have from
> everyone,
> > > the
> > > > > > better it is, since this is FOR the community AND BY the
> community
> > :)
> > > > > > Let us hear other opinions that come in on this thread, before
> > > > finalizing
> > > > > > on the criteria for Rookie PRs before Friday!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Warm Regards,
> > > > > > Srabasti Banerjee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Kindly note : We recognised the need for different awards to
> > > recognise
> > > > > > other contributors using different criterias in the future, as
> was
> > > > > > discussed in the discussion thread mentioned above. This thread
> is
> > > only
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the Rookie PRs.*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 9:49 PM Wei Lee <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I don’t think the consensus was “at least 1 PR (>=1) and less
> than
> > > 10
> > > > > PRs
> > > > > >> (<10).” My understanding was more like over 10, but it doesn't
> > > appear
> > > > in
> > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/graphs/contributors. (This
> > might
> > > > not
> > > > > >> even be the consensus yet.) Our consensus was to proceed, but
> the
> > > > > details
> > > > > >> may require further discussion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > >> Wei
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Dec 9, 2025, at 1:35 PM, Amogh Desai <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Just checking something I am not to clear on - is it a one time
> > > award
> > > > > per
> > > > > >>> person?
> > > > > >>> (Keeping the criteria in mind)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks & Regards,
> > > > > >>> Amogh Desai
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025 at 10:08 AM Srabasti Banerjee <
> > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hello All,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Following the discussion thread below, calling for a lazy
> > > consensus
> > > > on
> > > > > >>>> criteria to determine Rookie PR of each month:
> > > > > >>>> Discussion:
> > > > > >>>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/rz28lgots24pq54x67stdyyrq6848ptm
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Rookie PR of the Month will run for new first time
> contributors
> > > with
> > > > > at
> > > > > >>>> least 1 PR (>=1) and less than 10 PRs (<10) successfully
> merged
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >> same
> > > > > >>>> month.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The lazy consensus will end Friday, 12th of December, 6 pm
> PST.
> > > > > >>>> No need to answer unless you do not agree with the consensus.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> Srabasti Banerjee
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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