Thanks Davor,

Points taken, we will learn and improve on those.

Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was more
focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following up.
Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear.


On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline.
>
> * In the last month we have been working on automating the release process
> > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the Amaterasu
> > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the mentors to
> just
> > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of times to one
> > of the mentors about it).
> >
>
> Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield any
> discussion threads.
>
> Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA is the way
> to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed.
>
> Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member) isn't a way to
> build the community. Things need to be discussed in public whenever
> possible.
>
> Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring to)
> doesn't make sense.
>
> * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it took us a
> > month to initiate the process is the above automated build, which I
> > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will complete
> this
> > once build is enabled.
> >
>
> The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to itself.
>
>
> > * as for community growth, we are working with two organizations on
> running
> > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is due to
> start
> > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too early, and
> also
> > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a representative from
> > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is welcomed to
> share
> > :)
> >
>
> Great!
>
>
> > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not much more
> than
> > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK additional
> > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local fork (Nadav
> > Har-Tzvi)
> >
>
> I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work going on
> in a local fork?
>
>
> > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more which is
> > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given there would
> > be appreciated.
> >
>
> The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list communication, open
> discussions, no side channels, etc.
>
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