Agree

It makes sense.

Regards
JB

Le 31 mars 2018 à 02:46, à 02:46, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> a écrit:
>To close the loop on this...
>
>Without going too deep... just two individuals responding on this
>thread in
>10 days is way too little, given 5 PPMC members and 6 months in
>incubation.
>
>One thing worth clarifying -- to succeed as an Apache project, yes, a
>lot
>of change is needed. However, I'm *not* saying that there's anything
>wrong
>with the project. Just I'm not sure that the project and the foundation
>are
>the right fit at this moment. Nothing wrong with that -- there are
>many,
>many ways to succeed as a project.
>
>I continue to be enthusiastic about this space and continue to be happy
>to
>help, as appropriate. That said, I'll revive this thread in 1-2 months
>to
>check on the progress. If there's no evidence of progress, it may be
>best
>to rethink the path forward then.
>
>On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Eyal Ben-Ivri <eyalbeni...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> Sorry for not replying sooner, but I have been following the thread
>> closely.
>>
>> It is quite obvious we need to find more people that will be active
>in the
>> Amaterasu project.
>> Yaniv and myself are often communicating through private channels
>(and I
>> believe other developers are doing the same), and as an improvement,
>we
>> need to make Amaterasu related discussions through this mailing list.
>> A lot of the features and milestones discussions (some of them are
>> mentioned here like the Travis build) should be discussed here, and
>that is
>> something all of the active developers of the project should start to
>do,
>> in my opinion.
>>
>> Besides that, i agree with all the points raised here, and do think
>that
>> the main “beyond-the-code” goal should be growing the community
>around
>> Amaterasu.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Eyal
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27. March 2018 at 07:12:04, Davor Bonaci (da...@apache.org) wrote:
>>
>> Anybody else?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Yaniv Rodenski <ya...@shinto.io>
>wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Davor,
>> >
>> > Points taken, we will learn and improve on those.
>> >
>> > Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was
>more
>> > focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following
>up.
>> > Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline.
>> > >
>> > > * In the last month we have been working on automating the
>release
>> > process
>> > > > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the
>> > Amaterasu
>> > > > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the
>mentors
>> to
>> > > just
>> > > > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of
>times to
>> > one
>> > > > of the mentors about it).
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield
>any
>> > > discussion threads.
>> > >
>> > > Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA
>is the
>> > way
>> > > to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed.
>> > >
>> > > Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member)
>isn't a
>> way
>> > to
>> > > build the community. Things need to be discussed in public
>whenever
>> > > possible.
>> > >
>> > > Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring
>to)
>> > > doesn't make sense.
>> > >
>> > > * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it
>took
>> > us a
>> > > > month to initiate the process is the above automated build,
>which I
>> > > > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will
>complete
>> > > this
>> > > > once build is enabled.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to
>itself.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > * as for community growth, we are working with two
>organizations on
>> > > running
>> > > > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is
>due to
>> > > start
>> > > > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too
>early,
>> and
>> > > also
>> > > > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a
>representative
>> > from
>> > > > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is
>welcomed to
>> > > share
>> > > > :)
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Great!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not
>much
>> more
>> > > than
>> > > > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK
>additional
>> > > > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local
>fork
>> > (Nadav
>> > > > Har-Tzvi)
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work
>going
>> on
>> > > in a local fork?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more
>which
>> is
>> > > > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given
>there
>> > would
>> > > > be appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list
>communication,
>> open
>> > > discussions, no side channels, etc.
>> > >
>> > --
>> > Yaniv Rodenski
>> >
>> > +61 477 778 405
>> > ya...@shinto.io
>> >
>>

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