Agree It makes sense.
Regards JB Le 31 mars 2018 à 02:46, à 02:46, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> a écrit: >To close the loop on this... > >Without going too deep... just two individuals responding on this >thread in >10 days is way too little, given 5 PPMC members and 6 months in >incubation. > >One thing worth clarifying -- to succeed as an Apache project, yes, a >lot >of change is needed. However, I'm *not* saying that there's anything >wrong >with the project. Just I'm not sure that the project and the foundation >are >the right fit at this moment. Nothing wrong with that -- there are >many, >many ways to succeed as a project. > >I continue to be enthusiastic about this space and continue to be happy >to >help, as appropriate. That said, I'll revive this thread in 1-2 months >to >check on the progress. If there's no evidence of progress, it may be >best >to rethink the path forward then. > >On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Eyal Ben-Ivri <eyalbeni...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Hi to all, >> >> Sorry for not replying sooner, but I have been following the thread >> closely. >> >> It is quite obvious we need to find more people that will be active >in the >> Amaterasu project. >> Yaniv and myself are often communicating through private channels >(and I >> believe other developers are doing the same), and as an improvement, >we >> need to make Amaterasu related discussions through this mailing list. >> A lot of the features and milestones discussions (some of them are >> mentioned here like the Travis build) should be discussed here, and >that is >> something all of the active developers of the project should start to >do, >> in my opinion. >> >> Besides that, i agree with all the points raised here, and do think >that >> the main “beyond-the-code” goal should be growing the community >around >> Amaterasu. >> >> Thank you, >> Eyal >> >> >> >> On 27. March 2018 at 07:12:04, Davor Bonaci (da...@apache.org) wrote: >> >> Anybody else? >> >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Yaniv Rodenski <ya...@shinto.io> >wrote: >> >> > Thanks Davor, >> > >> > Points taken, we will learn and improve on those. >> > >> > Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was >more >> > focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following >up. >> > Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> >wrote: >> > >> > > Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline. >> > > >> > > * In the last month we have been working on automating the >release >> > process >> > > > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the >> > Amaterasu >> > > > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the >mentors >> to >> > > just >> > > > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of >times to >> > one >> > > > of the mentors about it). >> > > > >> > > >> > > Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield >any >> > > discussion threads. >> > > >> > > Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA >is the >> > way >> > > to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed. >> > > >> > > Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member) >isn't a >> way >> > to >> > > build the community. Things need to be discussed in public >whenever >> > > possible. >> > > >> > > Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring >to) >> > > doesn't make sense. >> > > >> > > * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it >took >> > us a >> > > > month to initiate the process is the above automated build, >which I >> > > > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will >complete >> > > this >> > > > once build is enabled. >> > > > >> > > >> > > The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to >itself. >> > > >> > > >> > > > * as for community growth, we are working with two >organizations on >> > > running >> > > > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is >due to >> > > start >> > > > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too >early, >> and >> > > also >> > > > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a >representative >> > from >> > > > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is >welcomed to >> > > share >> > > > :) >> > > > >> > > >> > > Great! >> > > >> > > >> > > > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not >much >> more >> > > than >> > > > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK >additional >> > > > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local >fork >> > (Nadav >> > > > Har-Tzvi) >> > > > >> > > >> > > I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work >going >> on >> > > in a local fork? >> > > >> > > >> > > > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more >which >> is >> > > > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given >there >> > would >> > > > be appreciated. >> > > > >> > > >> > > The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list >communication, >> open >> > > discussions, no side channels, etc. >> > > >> > -- >> > Yaniv Rodenski >> > >> > +61 477 778 405 >> > ya...@shinto.io >> > >>