To close the loop on this... Without going too deep... just two individuals responding on this thread in 10 days is way too little, given 5 PPMC members and 6 months in incubation.
One thing worth clarifying -- to succeed as an Apache project, yes, a lot of change is needed. However, I'm *not* saying that there's anything wrong with the project. Just I'm not sure that the project and the foundation are the right fit at this moment. Nothing wrong with that -- there are many, many ways to succeed as a project. I continue to be enthusiastic about this space and continue to be happy to help, as appropriate. That said, I'll revive this thread in 1-2 months to check on the progress. If there's no evidence of progress, it may be best to rethink the path forward then. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Eyal Ben-Ivri <eyalbeni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi to all, > > Sorry for not replying sooner, but I have been following the thread > closely. > > It is quite obvious we need to find more people that will be active in the > Amaterasu project. > Yaniv and myself are often communicating through private channels (and I > believe other developers are doing the same), and as an improvement, we > need to make Amaterasu related discussions through this mailing list. > A lot of the features and milestones discussions (some of them are > mentioned here like the Travis build) should be discussed here, and that is > something all of the active developers of the project should start to do, > in my opinion. > > Besides that, i agree with all the points raised here, and do think that > the main “beyond-the-code” goal should be growing the community around > Amaterasu. > > Thank you, > Eyal > > > > On 27. March 2018 at 07:12:04, Davor Bonaci (da...@apache.org) wrote: > > Anybody else? > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Yaniv Rodenski <ya...@shinto.io> wrote: > > > Thanks Davor, > > > > Points taken, we will learn and improve on those. > > > > Just one clearification, I was not blaming the mentor I myself was more > > focused on working with Guy on automating the build than following up. > > Rereading my own response I can see that was unclear. > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 at 11:02 am, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for a great response. Some comments inline. > > > > > > * In the last month we have been working on automating the release > > process > > > > via Travis, we are still trying to enable Travis build for the > > Amaterasu > > > > repo, which is taking ridiculously long. We need one of the mentors > to > > > just > > > > enable it via their account (I've already talked a couple of times to > > one > > > > of the mentors about it). > > > > > > > > > > Searching for 'travis' in the mailing list archives doesn't yield any > > > discussion threads. > > > > > > Mentors don't have permission to do this themselves. Infra JIRA is the > > way > > > to do it, but I couldn't find such JIRA ticket filed. > > > > > > Emailing one mentor directly (or any other community member) isn't a > way > > to > > > build the community. Things need to be discussed in public whenever > > > possible. > > > > > > Given the above, blaming a mentor (whomever you may be referring to) > > > doesn't make sense. > > > > > > * We are ready to release version 0.2.0-incubating, the reason it took > > us a > > > > month to initiate the process is the above automated build, which I > > > > suggested in prior discussion and had no rejections. We will complete > > > this > > > > once build is enabled. > > > > > > > > > > The release itself is a great milestone, but not the purpose to itself. > > > > > > > > > > * as for community growth, we are working with two organizations on > > > running > > > > POCs (which will hopefully grow the user base) one of them is due to > > > start > > > > very soon. I don't want to name them (first of all it's too early, > and > > > also > > > > it is for them to decide if they want to share) but a representative > > from > > > > at least one of those organisations is on the list and is welcomed to > > > share > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > Great! > > > > > > > > > > * This year I've seen contributions from 4 contributors (not much > more > > > than > > > > 3, I know) but one of them is new (Guy Peleg) and AFAIK additional > > > > longer-term work is done by one more contributor on his local fork > > (Nadav > > > > Har-Tzvi) > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the crux of the problem. Why is longer-term work going > on > > > in a local fork? > > > > > > > > > > * We should be presenting more, and growing the community more which > is > > > > hard to do starting out as a tiny community. Any advice given there > > would > > > > be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > The first thing has to be do the basics well: on-list communication, > open > > > discussions, no side channels, etc. > > > > > -- > > Yaniv Rodenski > > > > +61 477 778 405 > > ya...@shinto.io > > >
