Hi ! I would like to introduce myself first : I'm a French student in a computer engineering school in Bordeaux; thus I apologize for my English speaking :)
I use frequently ArgoUML and noticed that the French translation was not complete. I would like to help for the translation. I've searched in the developer zone some informations about how I can help but I couldn't find them. When I went on the http://argouml-fr.tigris.org/page, I was really surprised to find user help and not French developers tasks, as on the German page (I speak German too). I think there is no way for a user to find this page, because the general ArgoUML page doesn't mention these pages (it mentions it but far from the top of the page and I never thought to go down so far ! As a user, I can tell that users think that there is no French user page, that we need to be good in English to use ArgoUML), it only shows English documentation. I propose this solution : - If we want to keep French translation of the home page, we have to make it findable on the start page, that is to say : a French flag to indicate that we can access a French translation of the English page, or the user find directly the French page because his browser is configured to “speak” French; this French page would be linked to a French wiki, a French manual, a French FAQ, a French page of download... - We need to have a page for each language localization to explain how to contribute to the translation, and how much has been already done and what needs to be done and how. This page would be accessed from the developer zone. I took the French example but you can replace the word “French” by the localization that you want of course :D Hope I can help Stéfanie Duprey 2009/3/15 Linus Tolke <[email protected]> > Hello Thomas! > > There is another aspect in this that I think we need to discuss and that is > the user communities in other languages. > > Before we created the separate users' site, I had the ambition that each > language project would not only hold the GUI texts but also be the center of > an argouml community in that language. That is the reason there are users' > mailing lists for each language and the French project (argouml-fr) also > created a web page that was a copy of the main argouml web page but in > French. > > I no longer think this is such a good idea to pursue since none of these > communities has picked up. Instead I would like to concentrate all users on > the argouml-users site (Forum and wiki). If there are other-language user > communities that will appear in the future, I hope they can find room within > the Forum and wiki. > > Is this a good idea? > > If you all think this is a good idea we should do the following: > > - Remove all us...@argouml-language_code.tigris.org mailing lists. > - Change the web pages in the language projects to no longer include > the user aspect of the project. This is especially the French we page. The > other languages (Spanish, German, Norwegian, Swedish.) already use the home > page for project planning of the translation. > - Make all tigris projects become all-English (i.e. align the Project > Tools to be all English). We could still allow the project planning to be > written in the target language but the main language would be English as > the > rest of the project. > > /Linus > > 2009/2/26 Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> > >> Hi, >> >> as I'm writing mails anyway right know, I take the opportunity to report >> on the user situation. >> >> We have very few user traffic, both on the users mailing list and the >> users forum (also in the IRC channel of course): >> - de facto no user mails on the mailing list since 2008-11-19 >> - sporadic user questions in the user forum (1 or 2 per week I'd say) >> - the forum helped to establish a connection to the Plone/ArchGenXML >> community, they were the first who tested 0.28 beta which led to the soon >> release of beta2 btw. >> >> I think for the moment we can abandon the idea that users will gather and >> start helping out each other. So WE are the source of all usage assistance. >> So please consider to listen to *both* the users mailing list *and* the user >> forum, of course only if you really use ArgoUML. ;-) >> (Does anybody has an issue with that?) >> >> I'd like to that Tom for being around in the forum with me, otherwise I'd >> feel quite alone there! >> >> Thanks for your attention, >> Thomas >> >> P.S.: A last question to Linus on the project news: The news items was >> approved but does not appear in the Google gadget (also not in ohloh project >> page). What's missing here? >> -- >> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? 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