Hi Pontus,

OK, I will create the branch.

And, agree to do release. I just want to check if we have all the resources needed (maybe asking a staging repo a OSS Sonatype).

Regards
JB

On 11/16/2015 11:25 AM, Pontus Ullgren wrote:
(Moving the discussion to camel-dev)

Yes I think we should start a 2.15.x branch.
Also now that we have moved camel-extra to github I think it is time to
start thinking about getting a releases out so that we can get in pace with
the camel versions.

While camel-extra is it's own project it helps the users if camel-extra
keeps up with the main project.

Regards
Pontus

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 at 11:17 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:

Hi Pontus,

It looks good. I'm upgrading to Camel 2.15.4 and so fixing components.

If we have to "maintain" 2.15.0 I will create a specific branch.

WDYT ?

Regards
JB

On 11/13/2015 10:47 PM, Pontus Ullgren wrote:
So now the repository should be back "online".

I did a reimport of the google code repository and then rebased the
changes in master, that was previously only in the github repo, on top
of that.
Hopefully I have not missed any commits.

I had to disable the wmq (and the cis was disabled since before)
components since they depend on artifacts that are not in any public
repos. This was made intentionally.

Jean-Baptist, Roman Martin, Stephen and Greg: Could you all please take
a extra close look at make sure I have not missed any of your commits.
If I have please forgive me and tell me so I can try to fix it. Or just
recommit them and push :-)

Thanks
Pontus Ullgren

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 17:06 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com
<mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

     OK so the new imported repo was trashed I guess due to some forced
push.

     I will make a new try to fix this later.
     Could you please wait with pushing commits for the time beeing.

     // Pontus



     On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 16:51 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com
     <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

         Hello.

         The camel-extra repo from google code has been reimported to a
         new repo on github.
         The previous import has been renamed to camel-extra-firstimport
         but I could not find any easy way to make it read only.

         What is left is to reapply the patches I will get onto that
         during the weekend.

         Best regards
         Pontus Ullgren




         On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 11:16 David Karlsen
         <davidkarl...@gmail.com <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

             That sounds good so we don't loose anything. Can I
additionally
             suggest that the old repo get's closed/set readonly or
             something after
             the move so we don't end up here again?
             Keeping the mailinglist seems reasonable as extra will be
             very low
             traffic - and then easier to notice when using same
             communication
             channels etc

             2015-11-11 9:43 GMT+01:00 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com
             <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>>:
              > Great,
              >
              > I would be happy to do this new migration (already have
             the privileges
              > needed on the github organisation).
              > However I will wait an additional 72h just to see if
             there are any
              > objections :-)
              >
              > // Pontus
              >
              > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 09:40 Claus Ibsen
             <claus.ib...@gmail.com <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
              >
              >> Hi
              >>
              >> Yeah sure I think re-creating the code on github with
             latest from
              >> google code, and then add those PR's commits that are
             extra on github
              >> today could be the way forward.
              >>
              >> As we take the latest code from camel-extra then we are
             sure we have
              >> all the bits that people are using today from the
             official releases.
              >>
              >> About the extra mailing lists. I would actually prefer
             to not
              >> duplicate all the setup for extra, but just use this
             mailing list, and
              >> then the github issue tracker for the extra tickets. By
             using this
              >> mailing list then its much easier to share knowledge of
             the extra
              >> project. I dont think people bother to signup on endless
             number of
              >> mailing lists.
              >>
              >>
              >>
              >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Pontus Ullgren
             <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
              >> > Hello,
              >> >
              >> > Any thoughts or comments on this ?
              >> >
              >> > As I wrote above the two code bases has diverged but
             since the latest
              >> > official release has been made from the google code
             repo I think  it
              >> would
              >> > be best to treat this as the official repository and
             recreate the gihub
              >> > repo with a new import to from google code.
              >> >
              >> > Should we have a vote on this ? Or should this issue
             be handled on the
              >> > camel-extra mailing list instead ?
              >> >
              >> > Best regards
              >> > Pontus Ullgren
              >> >
              >> >
              >> >
              >> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 00:13 Pontus Ullgren
             <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
              >> >
              >> >> A short update.
              >> >> Looked through the commits in the google code repo
             and github and as a
              >> >> feared the two code bases has diverged with commits
             being done to both
              >> >> places.
              >> >>
              >> >> However I think I managed to juggle the commits for
             the master branch so
              >> >> that the result is something that is acceptable. I
             have yet to run tests
              >> >> and make sure things work as expected.
              >> >>
              >> >> I have not yet started looking into merging in the
             changes for the
              >> 2.13.x,
              >> >> 2.14.x and 2.15.x.
              >> >>
              >> >> However looking at the commit in github it seems to
             mainly be the
              >> >> contribution of Camel IBM CICS and Camel WMQ
             component. Both which I
              >> find a
              >> >> bit strange that they were even added to camel-extra
             since they have
              >> >> dependencies to libraries that are not publicly
             accessible, and must be
              >> >> locally installed. So these will never be able to
             build and test in the
              >> CI
              >> >> environment. Also I'm not sure about the possible
             licensing issues for
              >> >> these components. And will we be able to release them
             if the person in
              >> >> charge of the release does not have access to the
             closed source
              >> libraries ?
              >> >>
              >> >> So a possible, much simpler, way forward would be to
             rename the current
              >> >> github camel-extra repo, create a new and simply
             re-import from the
              >> current
              >> >> google code repo.
              >> >>
              >> >> We could then sit down and move over the commits that
             makes sense from
              >> the
              >> >> once that was done on github.
              >> >>
              >> >> Comments ?
              >> >>
              >> >> // Pontus
              >> >>
              >> >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 at 15:51 Pontus Ullgren
             <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
              >> >>
              >> >>> Yes, camel-extra copied to github quite some time
             ago. However after
              >> that
              >> >>> there was a period of uncertainty during which more
             commits and even
              >> >>> releases where made from the Google code repo up
             until the point where
              >> >>> google shutdown there service.
              >> >>>
              >> >>> As time has gone by it seems that there is a risk
             that the code bases
              >> has
              >> >>> diverge.
              >> >>> Is there anybody already looking into this? If not I
             would be happy to
              >> >>> try to make sure that the latest code from Google
             code is synced to the
              >> >>> github.com <http://github.com> repositories.
              >> >>>
              >> >>> Regarding SF from the latest ComDev discussions it
             turns out that, at
              >> >>> least to my interpretation, it is up to each PMC to
             decide where and
              >> what
              >> >>> they want to do with their extras project. Nothing
             will be
              >> automatically
              >> >>> moved by apache infra.
              >> >>>
              >> >>> Best regards
              >> >>>
              >> >>> Pontus
              >> >>>
              >> >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, 14:42 David Karlsen
             <davidkarl...@gmail.com <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com>>
              >> wrote:
              >> >>>
              >> >>>> https://github.com/camel-extra/camel-extra
              >> >>>>
              >> >>>> 2015-10-31 14:01 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Sobkowiak <
              >> >>>> krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com
             <mailto:krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com>>:
              >> >>>> > Hi JB
              >> >>>> >
              >> >>>> > I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is
             going to move to
              >> >>>> Github. I thought it's done already. Have you
             already final descision
              >> about
              >> >>>> Camel Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev
             about moving to SF but
              >> the
              >> >>>> projects will be not forced to move together to SF.
             As i have seen
              >> Camel
              >> >>>> prefers Github. I'm looking for
              >> >>>> > instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git
             and I thought Camel
              >> >>>> has already finished this process.
              >> >>>> >
              >> >>>> > Kindly regards
              >> >>>> > Krzysztof
              >> >>>> >
              >> >>>> > On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
              >> >>>> >> Hi Krysztof,
              >> >>>> >>
              >> >>>> >> camel-extras are not on github right. I've done
             some cleanups and
              >> >>>> upgrades.
              >> >>>> >>
              >> >>>> >> Regards
              >> >>>> >> JB
              >> >>>> >>
              >> >>>> >> On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak
wrote:
              >> >>>> >>> Hi
              >> >>>> >>>
              >> >>>> >>> Have you already performed the migration to
             Github? Have you done
              >> it
              >> >>>> alone? I assume Infra doesn't support this process?
              >> >>>> >>>
              >> >>>> >>> Regards
              >> >>>> >>> Krzysztof
              >> >>>> >>>
              >> >>>> >>> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>> I believe changing the package name would be a
             real problem for
              >> >>>> users of
              >> >>>> >>>> the library.
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that
             package name since
              >> >>>> according
              >> >>>> >>>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev
             mailinglist [1] it is up
              >> to
              >> >>>> each
              >> >>>> >>>> projects PMC to decide how there extras
             project should be
              >> handled.
              >> >>>> >>>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel
             Extras source code
              >> >>>> should be
              >> >>>> >>>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to
             keep the package
              >> name
              >> >>>> as is.
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>> [1]
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian Müller <
              >> >>>> christian.muel...@gmail.com
             <mailto:christian.muel...@gmail.com>>
              >> >>>> >>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance
             from dev@community
              >> >>>> regarding
              >> >>>> >>>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm
             not convinced from
              >> SF.
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> Before we are releasing our first release
             there, please check
              >> with
              >> >>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can
             still use the name
              >> "Camel
              >> >>>> Extra"
              >> >>>> >>>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has
             apache and camel
              >> in
              >> >>>> it),
              >> >>>> >>>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache
             Extra anymore in
              >> the
              >> >>>> future,
              >> >>>> >>>>> in my opinion.
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> Best,
              >> >>>> >>>>> Christian
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani"
             <r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com>
              >> >:
              >> >>>> >>>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel
             extras community
              >> feels
              >> >>>> >>>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It
             seems like the
              >> joint
              >> >>>> Apache
              >> >>>> >>>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated
anyway.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there
             and sharing our
              >> >>>> concerns at
              >> >>>> >>>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we
             dealt with this issue.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update
             the links on the
              >> >>>> Apache Camel
              >> >>>> >>>>>> website.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>> Raúl.
              >> >>>> >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren"
             <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>>
              >> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> Hello again,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev
             beginning this month[1] and
              >> >>>> it seems
              >> >>>> >>>>> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> be a dead end.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up
             to the PMCs.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4]
             I think we should
              >> go
              >> >>>> ahead
              >> >>>> >>>>> and
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> continue the move to github.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> Best regards
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> [1]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> [2]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> [3]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> [4]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren
             <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>
              >> >
              >> >>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is
             superior to what
              >> SF
              >> >>>> offers
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github)
             for camel-extra I
              >> >>>> don't
              >> >>>> >>>>> think
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big
             a deal.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble (
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/)
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees (
              >> >>>> >>>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/
              >> >>>> >>>>> )
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube (
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
             http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228)
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian (
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
             https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX)
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * End user component documentations are
             hosted on the main
              >> camel
              >> >>>> >>>>> project
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> wiki
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code
             the only thing that
              >> >>>> it was
              >> >>>> >>>>> used
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> for was to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific
             documentation such
              >> as
              >> >>>> >>>>> release
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> notes and most important
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> the GIT repo.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> So as long as the service provider
             provides git, a simple
              >> way of
              >> >>>> >>>>> hosting
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> some documentation and
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good
             uptime on the service
              >> >>>> in my
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important
             thing is that we
              >> get
              >> >>>> this
              >> >>>> >>>>> up
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> read-write ASAP.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Just my $0.02
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani
             <r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com>
              >> >
              >> >>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the
             Apache Extras [1]
              >> >>>> umbrella...
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the
             point of grouping
              >> all
              >> >>>> >>>>> "extras"
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF
             umbrella – I'm assuming
              >> >>>> it's
              >> >>>> >>>>> for
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> ASF
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely
             doesn't serve a
              >> technical
              >> >>>> >>>>> reason
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> nor
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras
             project is more
              >> closely
              >> >>>> >>>>> related
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras
             project in ASF and (b)
              >> the
              >> >>>> roles
              >> >>>> >>>>> in
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some
             correlation with
              >> the
              >> >>>> roles
              >> >>>> >>>>> at
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not
             necessarily tied together,
              >> i.e.
              >> >>>> >>>>> there's
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> no
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in
             camel-extras has to be a
              >> >>>> committer
              >> >>>> >>>>> in
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> [1]
             https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Raúl.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob
Davies <
              >> >>>> rajdav...@gmail.com <mailto:rajdav...@gmail.com>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a
             mass migration to
              >> SF
              >> >>>> - its
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn’t want
             multiple targets - so to
              >> >>>> pick
              >> >>>> >>>>> one
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes
             sense. However its not
              >> >>>> clear
              >> >>>> >>>>> that
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> we
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why
             we couldn’t just
              >> move
              >> >>>> it
              >> >>>> >>>>> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> GitHub
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ourselves ?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren
<
              >> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>>
              >> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to
             join the com-dev
              >> mailing
              >> >>>> >>>>> list
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> and
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> enlighten them.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on
             that question :-)
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David
Karlsen <
              >> >>>> >>>>> davidkarl...@gmail.com
             <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not github?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor
             NOËL" <
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com
             <mailto:victor.n...@linagora.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> :
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem
             with sourceforge?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there
             (such as a member of
              >> an
              >> >>>> >>>>> Apache
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Project
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take
             the wrong decision?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought
             because after the
              >> Gimp
              >> >>>> >>>>> people
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> told
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> SF
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things,
             they actually insisted
              >> >>>> >>>>> during
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015:
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a
             écrit :
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last
             resort. But the
              >> Apache
              >> >>>> >>>>> Extras
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF
             and the consensus
              >> >>>> seems
              >> >>>> >>>>> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> point
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have
             been my personal
              >> >>>> >>>>> preference)
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> or
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani*
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer
             | Enterprise
              >> >>>> Architect,
              >> >>>> >>>>> Open
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Source
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter:
             @raulvk
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM,
             Victor NOËL <
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com
             <mailto:victor.n...@linagora.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure
             sourceforge is a
              >> good
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> solution?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their
             terrible behaviour by
              >> >>>> >>>>> implanting
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> adware
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers
             available to download
              >> there.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big
             complain of the Gimp
              >> project
              >> >>>> >>>>> (that
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wasn't
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…).
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren
             a écrit :
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers
             in the current set
              >> of
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> contributors
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue
             maintaining the
              >> project
              >> >>>> >>>>> once
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> it
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> has
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved).
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is
             the progress of
              >> the SF
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> migration.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk
             Konsek <
              >> >>>> >>>>> hekon...@gmail.com <mailto:hekon...@gmail.com

              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache
             Extras projects are
              >> being
              >> >>>> >>>>> moved to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> the...
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a
             volunteer willing
              >> to
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> maintain
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after  SourceForge migration.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38
             użytkownik Pontus Ullgren <
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:
ullg...@gmail.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates
             on the comdev
              >> mailing
              >> >>>> list
              >> >>>> >>>>> no.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to
             Daniel Gruno (that
              >> >>>> seems
              >> >>>> >>>>> to be
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update
             for camel-extra.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul
             Kripalani <
              >> >>>> >>>>> r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF
             front about the
              >> >>>> Apache
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> Extras
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration?
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new
             releases of camel-extras
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> components...
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the
             ComDev thread but
              >> found no
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> conclusion.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that
             thread. Things tend to
              >> get
              >> >>>> >>>>> very
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> chatty
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly
             marked conclusion
              >> email.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani*
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member &
             Committer | Enterprise
              >> >>>> >>>>> Architect,
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Open
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
             http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net |
             twitter: @raulvk
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56
             AM, Pontus Ullgren <
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:
ullg...@gmail.com>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   From this thread[1]  it seems
             that Daniel Gruno
              >> is
              >> >>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>> one
              >> >>>> >>>>>>> in
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> charge
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any
             indication on the
              >> >>>> progress
              >> >>>> >>>>> or
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> roadmap.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan
             does NOT[2] seem to
              >> >>>> be a
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> option in
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev
             decision.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move
             this discussion to
              >> the
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-dev
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist.
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>
              >> >>>>
              >>

https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17
             Christoph
              >> Emmersberger <
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com
             <mailto:cemme...@gmail.com>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this
             move is expected? We
              >> >>>> have
              >> >>>> >>>>> still
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
              >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
              >> >


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