(Moving the discussion to camel-dev) Yes I think we should start a 2.15.x branch. Also now that we have moved camel-extra to github I think it is time to start thinking about getting a releases out so that we can get in pace with the camel versions.
While camel-extra is it's own project it helps the users if camel-extra keeps up with the main project. Regards Pontus On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 at 11:17 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > Hi Pontus, > > It looks good. I'm upgrading to Camel 2.15.4 and so fixing components. > > If we have to "maintain" 2.15.0 I will create a specific branch. > > WDYT ? > > Regards > JB > > On 11/13/2015 10:47 PM, Pontus Ullgren wrote: > > So now the repository should be back "online". > > > > I did a reimport of the google code repository and then rebased the > > changes in master, that was previously only in the github repo, on top > > of that. > > Hopefully I have not missed any commits. > > > > I had to disable the wmq (and the cis was disabled since before) > > components since they depend on artifacts that are not in any public > > repos. This was made intentionally. > > > > Jean-Baptist, Roman Martin, Stephen and Greg: Could you all please take > > a extra close look at make sure I have not missed any of your commits. > > If I have please forgive me and tell me so I can try to fix it. Or just > > recommit them and push :-) > > > > Thanks > > Pontus Ullgren > > > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 17:06 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com > > <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > OK so the new imported repo was trashed I guess due to some forced > push. > > > > I will make a new try to fix this later. > > Could you please wait with pushing commits for the time beeing. > > > > // Pontus > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 16:51 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com > > <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > The camel-extra repo from google code has been reimported to a > > new repo on github. > > The previous import has been renamed to camel-extra-firstimport > > but I could not find any easy way to make it read only. > > > > What is left is to reapply the patches I will get onto that > > during the weekend. > > > > Best regards > > Pontus Ullgren > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 11:16 David Karlsen > > <davidkarl...@gmail.com <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > That sounds good so we don't loose anything. Can I > additionally > > suggest that the old repo get's closed/set readonly or > > something after > > the move so we don't end up here again? > > Keeping the mailinglist seems reasonable as extra will be > > very low > > traffic - and then easier to notice when using same > > communication > > channels etc > > > > 2015-11-11 9:43 GMT+01:00 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com > > <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>>: > > > Great, > > > > > > I would be happy to do this new migration (already have > > the privileges > > > needed on the github organisation). > > > However I will wait an additional 72h just to see if > > there are any > > > objections :-) > > > > > > // Pontus > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 09:40 Claus Ibsen > > <claus.ib...@gmail.com <mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> Yeah sure I think re-creating the code on github with > > latest from > > >> google code, and then add those PR's commits that are > > extra on github > > >> today could be the way forward. > > >> > > >> As we take the latest code from camel-extra then we are > > sure we have > > >> all the bits that people are using today from the > > official releases. > > >> > > >> About the extra mailing lists. I would actually prefer > > to not > > >> duplicate all the setup for extra, but just use this > > mailing list, and > > >> then the github issue tracker for the extra tickets. By > > using this > > >> mailing list then its much easier to share knowledge of > > the extra > > >> project. I dont think people bother to signup on endless > > number of > > >> mailing lists. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Pontus Ullgren > > <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> > Hello, > > >> > > > >> > Any thoughts or comments on this ? > > >> > > > >> > As I wrote above the two code bases has diverged but > > since the latest > > >> > official release has been made from the google code > > repo I think it > > >> would > > >> > be best to treat this as the official repository and > > recreate the gihub > > >> > repo with a new import to from google code. > > >> > > > >> > Should we have a vote on this ? Or should this issue > > be handled on the > > >> > camel-extra mailing list instead ? > > >> > > > >> > Best regards > > >> > Pontus Ullgren > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 00:13 Pontus Ullgren > > <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> A short update. > > >> >> Looked through the commits in the google code repo > > and github and as a > > >> >> feared the two code bases has diverged with commits > > being done to both > > >> >> places. > > >> >> > > >> >> However I think I managed to juggle the commits for > > the master branch so > > >> >> that the result is something that is acceptable. I > > have yet to run tests > > >> >> and make sure things work as expected. > > >> >> > > >> >> I have not yet started looking into merging in the > > changes for the > > >> 2.13.x, > > >> >> 2.14.x and 2.15.x. > > >> >> > > >> >> However looking at the commit in github it seems to > > mainly be the > > >> >> contribution of Camel IBM CICS and Camel WMQ > > component. Both which I > > >> find a > > >> >> bit strange that they were even added to camel-extra > > since they have > > >> >> dependencies to libraries that are not publicly > > accessible, and must be > > >> >> locally installed. So these will never be able to > > build and test in the > > >> CI > > >> >> environment. Also I'm not sure about the possible > > licensing issues for > > >> >> these components. And will we be able to release them > > if the person in > > >> >> charge of the release does not have access to the > > closed source > > >> libraries ? > > >> >> > > >> >> So a possible, much simpler, way forward would be to > > rename the current > > >> >> github camel-extra repo, create a new and simply > > re-import from the > > >> current > > >> >> google code repo. > > >> >> > > >> >> We could then sit down and move over the commits that > > makes sense from > > >> the > > >> >> once that was done on github. > > >> >> > > >> >> Comments ? > > >> >> > > >> >> // Pontus > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 at 15:51 Pontus Ullgren > > <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> Yes, camel-extra copied to github quite some time > > ago. However after > > >> that > > >> >>> there was a period of uncertainty during which more > > commits and even > > >> >>> releases where made from the Google code repo up > > until the point where > > >> >>> google shutdown there service. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> As time has gone by it seems that there is a risk > > that the code bases > > >> has > > >> >>> diverge. > > >> >>> Is there anybody already looking into this? If not I > > would be happy to > > >> >>> try to make sure that the latest code from Google > > code is synced to the > > >> >>> github.com <http://github.com> repositories. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Regarding SF from the latest ComDev discussions it > > turns out that, at > > >> >>> least to my interpretation, it is up to each PMC to > > decide where and > > >> what > > >> >>> they want to do with their extras project. Nothing > > will be > > >> automatically > > >> >>> moved by apache infra. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Best regards > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Pontus > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, 14:42 David Karlsen > > <davidkarl...@gmail.com <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com>> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> https://github.com/camel-extra/camel-extra > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> 2015-10-31 14:01 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Sobkowiak < > > >> >>>> krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com > > <mailto:krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com>>: > > >> >>>> > Hi JB > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is > > going to move to > > >> >>>> Github. I thought it's done already. Have you > > already final descision > > >> about > > >> >>>> Camel Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev > > about moving to SF but > > >> the > > >> >>>> projects will be not forced to move together to SF. > > As i have seen > > >> Camel > > >> >>>> prefers Github. I'm looking for > > >> >>>> > instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git > > and I thought Camel > > >> >>>> has already finished this process. > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > Kindly regards > > >> >>>> > Krzysztof > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > > >> >>>> >> Hi Krysztof, > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> camel-extras are not on github right. I've done > > some cleanups and > > >> >>>> upgrades. > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> Regards > > >> >>>> >> JB > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak > wrote: > > >> >>>> >>> Hi > > >> >>>> >>> > > >> >>>> >>> Have you already performed the migration to > > Github? Have you done > > >> it > > >> >>>> alone? I assume Infra doesn't support this process? > > >> >>>> >>> > > >> >>>> >>> Regards > > >> >>>> >>> Krzysztof > > >> >>>> >>> > > >> >>>> >>> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>> I believe changing the package name would be a > > real problem for > > >> >>>> users of > > >> >>>> >>>> the library. > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that > > package name since > > >> >>>> according > > >> >>>> >>>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev > > mailinglist [1] it is up > > >> to > > >> >>>> each > > >> >>>> >>>> projects PMC to decide how there extras > > project should be > > >> handled. > > >> >>>> >>>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel > > Extras source code > > >> >>>> should be > > >> >>>> >>>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to > > keep the package > > >> name > > >> >>>> as is. > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> [1] > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian Müller < > > >> >>>> christian.muel...@gmail.com > > <mailto:christian.muel...@gmail.com>> > > >> >>>> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance > > from dev@community > > >> >>>> regarding > > >> >>>> >>>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm > > not convinced from > > >> SF. > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> Before we are releasing our first release > > there, please check > > >> with > > >> >>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can > > still use the name > > >> "Camel > > >> >>>> Extra" > > >> >>>> >>>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has > > apache and camel > > >> in > > >> >>>> it), > > >> >>>> >>>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache > > Extra anymore in > > >> the > > >> >>>> future, > > >> >>>> >>>>> in my opinion. > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> Best, > > >> >>>> >>>>> Christian > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani" > > <r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com> > > >> >: > > >> >>>> >>>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel > > extras community > > >> feels > > >> >>>> >>>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It > > seems like the > > >> joint > > >> >>>> Apache > > >> >>>> >>>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated > anyway. > > >> >>>> >>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there > > and sharing our > > >> >>>> concerns at > > >> >>>> >>>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we > > dealt with this issue. > > >> >>>> >>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update > > the links on the > > >> >>>> Apache Camel > > >> >>>> >>>>>> website. > > >> >>>> >>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>> Raúl. > > >> >>>> >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren" > > <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> Hello again, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev > > beginning this month[1] and > > >> >>>> it seems > > >> >>>> >>>>> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> be a dead end. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up > > to the PMCs. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] > > I think we should > > >> go > > >> >>>> ahead > > >> >>>> >>>>> and > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> continue the move to github. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> Best regards > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> [1] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> [2] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> [3] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> [4] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren > > <ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is > > superior to what > > >> SF > > >> >>>> offers > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github) > > for camel-extra I > > >> >>>> don't > > >> >>>> >>>>> think > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big > > a deal. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble ( > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees ( > > >> >>>> >>>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/ > > >> >>>> >>>>> ) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube ( > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian ( > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> * End user component documentations are > > hosted on the main > > >> camel > > >> >>>> >>>>> project > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> wiki > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code > > the only thing that > > >> >>>> it was > > >> >>>> >>>>> used > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> for was to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific > > documentation such > > >> as > > >> >>>> >>>>> release > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> notes and most important > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> the GIT repo. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> So as long as the service provider > > provides git, a simple > > >> way of > > >> >>>> >>>>> hosting > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> some documentation and > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good > > uptime on the service > > >> >>>> in my > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important > > thing is that we > > >> get > > >> >>>> this > > >> >>>> >>>>> up > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> read-write ASAP. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Just my $0.02 > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani > > <r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com> > > >> > > > >> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the > > Apache Extras [1] > > >> >>>> umbrella... > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the > > point of grouping > > >> all > > >> >>>> >>>>> "extras" > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF > > umbrella – I'm assuming > > >> >>>> it's > > >> >>>> >>>>> for > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> ASF > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely > > doesn't serve a > > >> technical > > >> >>>> >>>>> reason > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> nor > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras > > project is more > > >> closely > > >> >>>> >>>>> related > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras > > project in ASF and (b) > > >> the > > >> >>>> roles > > >> >>>> >>>>> in > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some > > correlation with > > >> the > > >> >>>> roles > > >> >>>> >>>>> at > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not > > necessarily tied together, > > >> i.e. > > >> >>>> >>>>> there's > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> no > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in > > camel-extras has to be a > > >> >>>> committer > > >> >>>> >>>>> in > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] > > https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Raúl. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob > Davies < > > >> >>>> rajdav...@gmail.com <mailto:rajdav...@gmail.com>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a > > mass migration to > > >> SF > > >> >>>> - its > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn’t want > > multiple targets - so to > > >> >>>> pick > > >> >>>> >>>>> one > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes > > sense. However its not > > >> >>>> clear > > >> >>>> >>>>> that > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> we > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why > > we couldn’t just > > >> move > > >> >>>> it > > >> >>>> >>>>> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> GitHub > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ourselves ? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren > < > > >> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto:ullg...@gmail.com>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to > > join the com-dev > > >> mailing > > >> >>>> >>>>> list > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> and > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> enlighten them. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on > > that question :-) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David > Karlsen < > > >> >>>> >>>>> davidkarl...@gmail.com > > <mailto:davidkarl...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not github? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor > > NOËL" < > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com > > <mailto:victor.n...@linagora.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> : > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem > > with sourceforge? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there > > (such as a member of > > >> an > > >> >>>> >>>>> Apache > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Project > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take > > the wrong decision? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought > > because after the > > >> Gimp > > >> >>>> >>>>> people > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> told > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> SF > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things, > > they actually insisted > > >> >>>> >>>>> during > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015: > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a > > écrit : > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last > > resort. But the > > >> Apache > > >> >>>> >>>>> Extras > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF > > and the consensus > > >> >>>> seems > > >> >>>> >>>>> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> point > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have > > been my personal > > >> >>>> >>>>> preference) > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> or > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer > > | Enterprise > > >> >>>> Architect, > > >> >>>> >>>>> Open > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Source > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: > > @raulvk > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, > > Victor NOËL < > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com > > <mailto:victor.n...@linagora.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure > > sourceforge is a > > >> good > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> solution? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their > > terrible behaviour by > > >> >>>> >>>>> implanting > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> adware > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers > > available to download > > >> there. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big > > complain of the Gimp > > >> project > > >> >>>> >>>>> (that > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wasn't > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren > > a écrit : > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers > > in the current set > > >> of > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> contributors > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue > > maintaining the > > >> project > > >> >>>> >>>>> once > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> it > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> has > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is > > the progress of > > >> the SF > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> migration. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk > > Konsek < > > >> >>>> >>>>> hekon...@gmail.com <mailto:hekon...@gmail.com > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache > > Extras projects are > > >> being > > >> >>>> >>>>> moved to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> the... > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a > > volunteer willing > > >> to > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> maintain > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers! > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 > > użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto: > ullg...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates > > on the comdev > > >> mailing > > >> >>>> list > > >> >>>> >>>>> no. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to > > Daniel Gruno (that > > >> >>>> seems > > >> >>>> >>>>> to be > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update > > for camel-extra. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul > > Kripalani < > > >> >>>> >>>>> r...@evosent.com <mailto:r...@evosent.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF > > front about the > > >> >>>> Apache > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> Extras > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration? > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new > > releases of camel-extras > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> components... > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the > > ComDev thread but > > >> found no > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> conclusion. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that > > thread. Things tend to > > >> get > > >> >>>> >>>>> very > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> chatty > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly > > marked conclusion > > >> email. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & > > Committer | Enterprise > > >> >>>> >>>>> Architect, > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Open > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | > > twitter: @raulvk > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 > > AM, Pontus Ullgren < > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com <mailto: > ullg...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems > > that Daniel Gruno > > >> is > > >> >>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>> one > > >> >>>> >>>>>>> in > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> charge > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any > > indication on the > > >> >>>> progress > > >> >>>> >>>>> or > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> roadmap. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan > > does NOT[2] seem to > > >> >>>> be a > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> option in > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev > > decision. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move > > this discussion to > > >> the > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-dev > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> > > > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 > > Christoph > > >> Emmersberger < > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com > > <mailto:cemme...@gmail.com>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this > > move is expected? We > > >> >>>> have > > >> >>>> >>>>> still > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >
