The vote was to unfreeze new changes at beta, so logically that means non-bugfix work goes into trunk.
Jordan, thanks. That is a more recent vote so thanks. That being said, under that line Benedict comments this needs to be discussed. So how about we just have a Vote on branching cassandra-4.0 and the issue will be decided? Jake On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:53 AM Benedict Elliott Smith <bened...@apache.org> wrote: > I'm not sure what you are referring to here, that vote said nothing about > branching at beta. > > The most recent vote on the topic anyway was for the Release Lifecycle > process, which stipulates branching at GA. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle > > We can vote to modify this document, or to make an exception, but I am > aware of no other vote stipulating anything about the point at which we > branch. > > > On 24/09/2020, 16:49, "Jake Luciani" <jak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Today the community still has in force an explicit vote prohibiting > thee > merge of this work. > > You referred to an explicit vote here. I assume that was the one you > were > referring to? Yes, the community should decide. > Call a vote if you think the community thinks we should continue the > freeze > vs continuing to rely on beliefs about the community. > > I'm simply pointing out the branching of 4.0 post beta was the plan of > last > record. > > Jake > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:44 AM Benedict Elliott Smith < > bened...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > The community does everything through discussion and consensus. > Does that > > include branching, or not? > > > > If there is no consensus, a vote is held. Whether or not you > consider the > > vote from 2018 still valid, you still need to seek the consent of the > > community for your action today. Or is that not sacrosanct anymore? > > > > > > On 24/09/2020, 16:22, "Jake Luciani" <jak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'm sorry I see no issue with branching 4.0 as it was the thing > we > > voted on > > back in 2018. If you wish to extend the freeze you should call > a new > > vote. > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 11:15 AM Benedict Elliott Smith < > > bened...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Nobody has any problem with an external repository being > > maintained. Just > > > bear in mind the normal process will need to take place to > merge to > > the ASF > > > repository, and that there may be feedback and review requests > to > > address, > > > so merge order and diffs will probably change. > > > > > > > > > On 24/09/2020, 16:05, "Brandon Williams" <dri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:55 AM Benedict Elliott Smith > > > <bened...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > You do not have the authority to unilaterally overrule > the > > community > > > process. This is a serious breach of your responsibilities as > a > > member of > > > the PMC. > > > > > > Feel free to complain that I'm creating branches we intend > to > > someday, > > > perhaps even in 2020, release. > > > > > > > I have deleted this branch, and will do so again if you > repeat > > this. > > > > > > This would create some interesting tickets for INFRA, but > I won't > > > waste their time with you either. Whether either of us has > the > > > authority to do such on ASF infrastructure is irrelevant, > since > > that > > > is the only thing that can be argued here. The ASL > absolutely > > allows > > > people to innovate on their own with the code, so let's > just > > move the > > > bits. > > > > > > Those who wish to innovate, > > > https://github.com/driftx/cassandra/tree/cassandra-5.0 is > now > > open for > > > business, PRs accepted. This will be maintained to track > trunk > > on the > > > ASF servers. > > > > > > I guess this is the apache way. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://twitter.com/tjake > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > -- > http://twitter.com/tjake > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > -- http://twitter.com/tjake
