We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier (templates.cloudstack.org), but I
> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal entity
> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a contract with
> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month).  To make this work,
> alternatives:
>  (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to operate this
> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to support this
> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible.
>
> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc and ACS
> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the bucket.
>
> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much better
> idea :)
>
> Raise of hands:
> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default
> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the world,
> especially in East Asia.
>
> [1]
>
> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-script-to-test-download-mirrors/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure
> > templates!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> :) According to Raja, there is some time before download.cloud.com is
> >> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that it is
> Dec
> >> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what not.
> Now,
> >> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done
> yesterday!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence
> >>> On 20 May 2016 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process.
> >>> >
> >>> > I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to platform
> >>> adoption.
> >>> >
> >>> > The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a good
> >>> milestone
> >>> in a CloudStack build.
> >>> >
> >>> > To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the template
> >>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation step.
> >>> great idea, looking forward to your PR.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Kind regards,
> >>> >
> >>> > Paul Angus
> >>> >
> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> >>> > www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >>> > @shapeblue
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
> >>> > Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06
> >>> > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>> > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
> >>> >
> >>> > sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is over.
> acs
> >>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s not put it
> >>> in a
> >>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>> chirade...@gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Well, you have to define "worry" :)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'm proposing an almost identical step to
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/
> >>> > > 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template
> >>> > >
> >>> > > If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they can
> >>> > > download the default template in a similar manner. The
> >>> > > "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do the
> mirror
> >>> > > checking etc.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens <
> wstev...@cloudops.com
> >>> >
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > I definitely agree with this.  I don't think people doing a PoC
> >>> > > > should
> >>> > > have
> >>> > > > to worry about getting a template installed on first setup.  I
> >>> think
> >>> > > > that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption.  Getting
> the
> >>> > > > first boot process from download to first VM launched should be
> as
> >>> > > > smooth as
> >>> > > possible.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > *Will STEVENS*
> >>> > > > Lead Developer
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >>> > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com
> *|*
> >>> > > > tw @CloudOps_
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >>> > > > <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > Chiradeep,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > It makes sense not to have this old default very insecure guest
> >>> > > template
> >>> > > > > still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some kind of
> >>> > > > > meta-data pointing to the latest version of an acceptable
> >>> template
> >>> > > > > (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on their
> way.
> >>> Would you agree?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>> > > chirade...@gmail.com>
> >>> > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Pierre,
> >>> > > > > > I meant the auto-download of default templates, not systemvm.
> >>> > > > > > Note that the initial systemvm template has to be
> >>> > > > > > hand-downloaded
> >>> > > > anyway.
> >>> > > > > > If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all that
> is
> >>> > > needed.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion <
> >>> > > pd...@cloudops.com>
> >>> > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of the
> >>> systemvm
> >>> > > > > template,
> >>> > > > > > > has this should be simplify deployment of a cloudstack
> >>> system.
> >>> > > > > > > although, the download URL should be a configurable value,
> >>> > > > > > > maybe
> >>> > > in a
> >>> > > > > > > property file or thru the API somehow or via a pre-install
> >>> command.
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > I really like  download.cloudstack.org + mirror. I'm
> looking
> >>> > > > > > > at
> >>> > > > > getting
> >>> > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new Jenkins and I
> >>> got
> >>> > > > > > > no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain for
> >>> community
> >>> > > services
> >>> > > > > so
> >>> > > > > > > I'm
> >>> > > > > > > pretty sure we would be ok to use download.cloudstack.org,
> >>> > > > > > > where
> >>> > > > would
> >>> > > > > > we
> >>> > > > > > > setting this up? on the current webserver of our website?
> >>> > > > > > > could we
> >>> > > ?
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > Cheers,
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > PL
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >>> > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > Erik
> >>> > > > > > > > I agree on the existing users - not the end of the world.
> >>> We
> >>> > > could
> >>> > > > > even
> >>> > > > > > > > release a tiny patch to update the DB records
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > The piece that we need to be really careful with is the
> >>> > > > > > > > "I've
> >>> > > just
> >>> > > > > > > > downloaded cloudstack  thing for the first time" scenario
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas flowing on
> >>> that
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > Kind Regards
> >>> > > > > > > > Giles
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >>> > > > > > > > @shapeblue
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > > > > > > From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com]
> >>> > > > > > > > Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32
> >>> > > > > > > > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>> > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say that this
> >>> > > > > > > > isn't
> >>> > > all
> >>> > > > > that
> >>> > > > > > > > troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the
> >>> > > > > > > > appropriate db
> >>> > > > > > records.
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > We should ensure that we have some good posts discovered
> by
> >>> > > Google
> >>> > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > other search engines, so that when somebody running old
> >>> > > > installations
> >>> > > > > > hit
> >>> > > > > > > > this issue they find the workaround.
> >>> > > > > > > > There's a lot of time to reach out to users and inform of
> >>> > > > > > > > the fix necessary.
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > --
> >>> > > > > > > > Erik
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >>> > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured out
> >>> before
> >>> > > > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > current
> >>> > > > > > > > > download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix
> committed
> >>> > > > > > > > > to it
> >>> > > > > being
> >>> > > > > > > > there
> >>> > > > > > > > > another year ?
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on this
> >>> > > > > > > > > download
> >>> > > at
> >>> > > > > > > initial
> >>> > > > > > > > > build/startup and then periodically if people do things
> >>> > > > > > > > > like
> >>> > > > build
> >>> > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > new
> >>> > > > > > > > > zone
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > So, users environments aren't going to stop if its
> >>> pulled,
> >>> > > > > > > > > but
> >>> > > > > nobody
> >>> > > > > > > > > would be a able to build/install cloudstack and it may
> >>> > > > > > > > > cause
> >>> > > > issues
> >>> > > > > > as
> >>> > > > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > when users make config changes
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : you
> >>> start
> >>> > > > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > Sec
> >>> > > > > > > > > Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the built
> in
> >>> > > template
> >>> > > > > > from
> >>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > My understanding is that its simple db  change to make
> >>> > > > > > > > > once an
> >>> > > > > > > > environment
> >>> > > > > > > > > is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a code
> >>> > > > > > > > > patch to
> >>> > > > fix
> >>> > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > initial install
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > #notideal
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the project
> as
> >>> > > > > > > > > its
> >>> > > key
> >>> > > > to
> >>> > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > software working, however my understanding is it
> involves
> >>> > > > binaries
> >>> > > > > > > which
> >>> > > > > > > > > ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party
> binaries)
> >>> > > > > > > > > - so
> >>> > > > that
> >>> > > > > > > just
> >>> > > > > > > > > wont happen
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which we all
> owe
> >>> > > > > > > > > him a
> >>> > > > > > massive
> >>> > > > > > > > > thanks)  - but you are right, it is a 3rd party
> >>> dependency
> >>> > > > > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > arguably a
> >>> > > > > > > > > SPOF.  But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're always
> going
> >>> > > > > > > > > to
> >>> > > have
> >>> > > > > > this
> >>> > > > > > > > > issue.
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > So, we could patch the code to point somewhere else -
> but
> >>> > > > > > > > > where
> >>> > > > ? -
> >>> > > > > > by
> >>> > > > > > > > > definition its got to be something maintained by a 3rd
> >>> > > > > > > > > party
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > We had this debate some time ago when talking about the
> >>> > > > > repositories.
> >>> > > > > > > We
> >>> > > > > > > > > (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, which
> >>> wev'e
> >>> > > always
> >>> > > > > > > opened
> >>> > > > > > > > up
> >>> > > > > > > > > as public. However, there were concerns about having a
> >>> > > > > > > > > company
> >>> > > > > domain
> >>> > > > > > > > name
> >>> > > > > > > > > (which I understand) - so apt-get became our preferred
> >>> repo.
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Thoughts on how to fix this:
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host entry
> >>> > > > > > > > download.cloudstack.org.
> >>> > > > > > > > > Its under their domain, but with the site being with a
> >>> 3rd
> >>> > > party
> >>> > > > it
> >>> > > > > > > could
> >>> > > > > > > > > be allowed
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the current
> DNS
> >>> > > > > > > > > entry
> >>> > > > to a
> >>> > > > > > new
> >>> > > > > > > > > location (would be simplest but may be legally complex
> >>> and
> >>> > > relies
> >>> > > > > on
> >>> > > > > > > > > ongoing goodwill)
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the download
> >>> > > > > > > > > location on
> >>> > > > > > > install.
> >>> > > > > > > > > We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the SPOF, we
> >>> could
> >>> > > > > > > > > then
> >>> > > > get
> >>> > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > templates copied to a number of 3rd party locations and
> >>> > > > > > > > > allow
> >>> > > > > people
> >>> > > > > > to
> >>> > > > > > > > > choose which one they use
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Kind Regards
> >>> > > > > > > > > Giles
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > giles.sir...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >>> > > > > > > > > @shapeblue
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > > > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com [mailto:
> >>> > > williamstev...@gmail.com]
> >>> > > > > On
> >>> > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens
> >>> > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59
> >>> > > > > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>> > > > > > > > > Cc: Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
> >>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>> > > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than that.
> We
> >>> > > > > > > > > can
> >>> > > > > change
> >>> > > > > > it
> >>> > > > > > > > > going forward and we can move everything from there
> over
> >>> > > > > > > > > to a
> >>> > > new
> >>> > > > > > > domain.
> >>> > > > > > > > > I believe the problem is with all of the existing ACS
> or
> >>> > > > > > > > > CCP
> >>> > > > > installs
> >>> > > > > > > out
> >>> > > > > > > > > there currently pointing at the download.cloud.com
> URL,
> >>> so
> >>> > > when
> >>> > > > it
> >>> > > > > > > goes
> >>> > > > > > > > > down, those installs have to be updated.
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is the
> >>> > > > > > > > > impression I
> >>> > > am
> >>> > > > > > > getting
> >>> > > > > > > > > from this thread.  Can this be confirmed?
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > *Will STEVENS*
> >>> > > > > > > > > Lead Developer
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >>> > > > > > > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w
> >>> > > > > > > > > cloudops.com
> >>> > > > *|*
> >>> > > > > > tw
> >>> > > > > > > > > @CloudOps_
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae
> >>> > > > > > > > > <i...@cloudops.com>
> >>> > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given the
> >>> (rather
> >>> > > > > > concerning)
> >>> > > > > > > > > > level of dependency on the operation of the
> >>> > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > -
> >>> > > > > > > would
> >>> > > > > > > > > > it not make sense to use a domain that is under the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > control
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > > > > party
> >>> > > > > > > > > > whose alignment with CloudStack will not shift. I
> >>> > > > > > > > > > hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache
> >>> Foundation,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > but perhaps the
> >>> > > > > fabled
> >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudStack alliance organization would be a good way
> to
> >>> > > handle
> >>> > > > > this
> >>> > > > > > > > > > long term.
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela
> >>> > > > > > > > > > <raja.pull...@accelerite.com> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Paul,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > trust me, it won’t be go away overnight.  We are
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > talking to
> >>> > > > > > Citrix
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > requested them to keep it active for another year.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Once we have the content copied over (I will work
> >>> with
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Wido
> >>> > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > verify
> >>> > > > > > > > > > this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > documentation
> >>> > > > > (user
> >>> > > > > > > > > > guides update and create a wiki to show how an
> existing
> >>> > > > > > installation
> >>> > > > > > > > > > can fixed to point to new URLs) we don’t have a
> >>> > > > > > > > > > dependency
> >>> > > on “
> >>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com” –
> >>> > > > > > > > > > right?  sorry, if I am missing something here?
>  Please
> >>> let
> >>> > > me
> >>> > > > > > know,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > best,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Raja
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite,
> 2055,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > @accelerite
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Thanks Raja,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>May I humbly suggest that someone at Accelerite
> >>> speaks
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>to
> >>> > > > > Citrix
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>about
> >>> > > > > > > > > > how long the content will remain on
> download.cloud.com
> >>> ?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Simply losing the content on download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>overnight
> >>> > > > will
> >>> > > > > > > make
> >>> > > > > > > > > > everyone look bad
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Kind regards,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul Angus
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >>> > > > @shapeblue
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>From: Raja Pullela
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>[mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com]
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>> > > > > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Yes, you are right, this change impacts both
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>CloudStack and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudPlatform customers.  Not sure, if I understand
> you
> >>> > > > > correctly,
> >>> > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > move away from “download.cloud.com” is permanent.  I
> >>> > > > > > > > > > don’t
> >>> > > > know
> >>> > > > > > how
> >>> > > > > > > > > > long the content on download.cloud.com will be
> >>> up/available.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Based on Wido’s availability, we can get rest of
> the
> >>> > > content
> >>> > > > to
> >>> > > > > > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this week ?
> >>> BTW,
> >>> the
> >>> > > > > > content
> >>> > > > > > > > on
> >>> > > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com is left as is and will stay as is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > until
> >>> > > > > Citrix
> >>> > > > > > > > > > decides on what to do with it.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Best,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Raja
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite,
> 2055,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>@accelerite
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>As this effects every copy of CloudStack and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudPlatform
> >>> > > > > there
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>ever
> >>> > > > > > > > > > was.  Please may I ask how long we have to manage a
> >>> > > > > > > > > > migration
> >>> > > > > away
> >>> > > > > > > > > > from download.cloud.com?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Kind regards,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Regards,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> 4HSUK
> >>> > > > @shapeblue
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>From: Raja Pullela
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>[mailto:raja.pull...@accelerite.com]
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>> > > > > > download.cloud.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Hi Paul,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Thank you for the additional file details and I
> will
> >>> > > request
> >>> > > > > > wido
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>to
> >>> > > > > > > > > > copy these as well.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>BTW, I agree with you there is every copy of
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudStack
> >>> > > out
> >>> > > > > > there
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > reason why I have requested Wido to download all the
> >>> old
> >>> > > files
> >>> > > > as
> >>> > > > > > > well.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Looks like we missed few and get these uploaded as
> >>> well.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Please note that Citrix owns the “
> >>> download.cloud.com”
> >>> > > > address
> >>> > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>we
> >>> > > > > > > > > > have to get all the CloudStack related content from
> >>> there.
> >>> > > > Once
> >>> > > > > we
> >>> > > > > > > > > > confirm on the content move Citrix may choose to
> remove
> >>> > > > > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > content
> >>> > > > > > > > > > from the location.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>That said, I will get in touch with Wido again and
> >>> do
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>a
> >>> > > > > complete
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>copy
> >>> > > > > > > > > > such that we have everything.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Best,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite,
> >>> 2055,
> >>> > > > > Laurelwood
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>@accelerite
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>> > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I've just picked up on this.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>There are a number of URLs which are hardcoded
> into
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>the
> >>> > > > > > > CloudStack
> >>> > > > > > > > > > database for the small built-in templates.  These are
> >>> in
> >>> > > > > > > > > > just
> >>> > > > > about
> >>> > > > > > > > > > every copy of CloudStack out there.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-ae94-4f97
> >>> > > > > > > -afd
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2-f8
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>755767aca.vhd.bz2
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92
> >>> > > > > > > be-c
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>001b
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>d
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>8a0faf.qcow2.bz2
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vh
> >>> > > > > > > d.bz
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-x86_64.ta
> >>> > > > > > > r.gz
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>These will need copying and the CloudStack code
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>updating
> >>> > > to
> >>> > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>new
> >>> > > > > > > > > > location.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I don't think that you can deprecate
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>download.cloud.com
> >>> > > or
> >>> > > > > > it's
> >>> > > > > > > > > > contents for some time, without causing a lot of
> issues
> >>> > > > > > > > > > for
> >>> > > > > users.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Hi,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Short Term - all the content has moved to
> >>> > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Which sections to be modified?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>The Install Guide needs to be modified.  Sample
> >>> > > > links/details
> >>> > > > > > are
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to be
> >>> updated
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>for
> >>> > > > > other
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Released versions of Cloudstack documentation:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installa
> >>> > > > > > > tion
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>/en/
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4 .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Section - Downloading vhd-util¶
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>What to do modified ?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>modify URL from
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util
> >>> > > > to
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@Rajsekhar can you please update the sections ?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Thanks
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Senior Manager, Product Development
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Accelerite,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2055, Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054,
> USA
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@accelerite
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Kind regards,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Regards,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> 4HSUK
> >>> > > > > @shapeblue
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>DISCLAIMER
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>==========
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>This e-mail may contain privileged and
> confidential
> >>> > > > > information
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>which
> >>> > > > > > > > > > is the property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems
> >>> business.
> >>> > > > It
> >>> > > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or entity
> >>> to
> >>> > > which
> >>> > > > it
> >>> > > > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> >>> are
> >>> not
> >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, distribute
> or
> >>> use
> >>> > > this
> >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication in
> >>> error,
> >>> > > > please
> >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this
> >>> message.
> >>> > > > > > Accelerite,
> >>> > > > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any
> >>> liability
> >>> for
> >>> > > > > virus
> >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>DISCLAIMER
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>==========
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential
> >>> > > > information
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >>which is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > the property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems
> >>> business. It
> >>> > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or entity
> >>> to
> >>> > > which
> >>> > > > it
> >>> > > > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> >>> are
> >>> not
> >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, distribute
> or
> >>> use
> >>> > > this
> >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication in
> >>> error,
> >>> > > > please
> >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this
> >>> message.
> >>> > > > > > Accelerite,
> >>> > > > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any
> >>> liability
> >>> for
> >>> > > > > virus
> >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > ==========
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential
> >>> > > > information
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > which is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > the property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems
> >>> business. It
> >>> > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > intended only for the use of the individual or entity
> >>> to
> >>> > > which
> >>> > > > it
> >>> > > > > > is
> >>> > > > > > > > > > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> >>> are
> >>> not
> >>> > > > > > > > > > authorized to read, retain, copy, print, distribute
> or
> >>> use
> >>> > > this
> >>> > > > > > > > > > message. If you have received this communication in
> >>> error,
> >>> > > > please
> >>> > > > > > > > > > notify the sender and delete all copies of this
> >>> message.
> >>> > > > > > Accelerite,
> >>> > > > > > > a
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Persistent Systems business does not accept any
> >>> liability
> >>> for
> >>> > > > > virus
> >>> > > > > > > > > infected mails.
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > --
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Ian Rae
> >>> > > > > > > > > > CEO | PDG
> >>> > > > > > > > > > c: 514.944.4008
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > > > CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking
> >>> Solutions
> >>> > > > > > > > > > www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada |
> >>> H3J
> >>> 1S6
> >>> > > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > --
> >>> > > > > Daan
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Daan
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>



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