On 7/16/19 2:29 PM, Dmitriy Pavlov wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Could you mention events you're referring to?

For the purposes of *THIS* discussion, I think that that's a bit of a
sidetrack.

Suffice it to say that clearer understanding of the *WHY* around the
principles of the Apache Way is necessary, in order that the *WHAT*
doesn't get perceived as meaningless, arbitrary, or dispensible.


> 
> In Apache Training (incubating) Justin started to develop content related
> to the Incubator
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-training/tree/master/content/ApacheWay ,
> so we can consider developing a standalone session related to the Apache
> Way principles. But to understand if training will be helpful I would like
> to know the entire story.
> 
> You can share it with me directly if you want.
> 
> Sincerely
> Dmitriy Pavlov
> 
> вт, 16 июл. 2019 г. в 20:52, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>:
> 
>> I think that the events of the last several months have clearly shown a
>> lack of awareness, knowledge and (and some level) appreciation (adherence)
>> to The Apache Way. It would be useful, I think, if this was a focused
>> effort w/i the foundation.
>>
>> Of course, there is a lot of overlap between ComDev and this effort, and
>> so the questions are how best to address this. Maybe some sort of sub-cmmt
>> under ComDev? Or spinning this out ala D&I (but as a PMC to avoid the
>> problems that cmmt encountered and to engender trust and collaboration)? Or
>> basically focus on it w/i ComDev with the structure "as is"... I think
>> having one person "tasked" with herding the cats and coordinating the
>> effort would be useful (and I volunteer to do so), no matter what structure
>> we decide.
>>
>> Thoughts? Ideas?
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