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On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote: >> For the purposes of *THIS* discussion, I think that that's a bit of a > sidetrack. > Sure. > > Jim, > Despite the fact that I do not fully understand the problem, I am ready to > volunteer to prepare materials. I don't care if it will be a part of Apache > Training or Apache Com.Dev or slightly another thing. I just like this > topic, which why a year ago I've started asking about it here. > > I know about the excellent slides done by Shane > http://shaneslides.com/apachecon/TheApacheWay-ApacheConNA2018.html#2 > > I also like the idea of explaining not only principles but all principles' > impact. Ideal material for education would explain why ASF can't drop each > component of the Apache Way. I’d like to see the Apache Way described like Euclidean Geometry. What are the postulates? What are the theorems built from these? Regards, Dave > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > вт, 16 июл. 2019 г. в 22:46, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com>: > >> >> >>> On 7/16/19 2:29 PM, Dmitriy Pavlov wrote: >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> Could you mention events you're referring to? >> >> For the purposes of *THIS* discussion, I think that that's a bit of a >> sidetrack. >> >> Suffice it to say that clearer understanding of the *WHY* around the >> principles of the Apache Way is necessary, in order that the *WHAT* >> doesn't get perceived as meaningless, arbitrary, or dispensible. >> >> >>> >>> In Apache Training (incubating) Justin started to develop content related >>> to the Incubator >>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-training/tree/master/content/ApacheWay >> , >>> so we can consider developing a standalone session related to the Apache >>> Way principles. But to understand if training will be helpful I would >> like >>> to know the entire story. >>> >>> You can share it with me directly if you want. >>> >>> Sincerely >>> Dmitriy Pavlov >>> >>> вт, 16 июл. 2019 г. в 20:52, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>: >>> >>>> I think that the events of the last several months have clearly shown a >>>> lack of awareness, knowledge and (and some level) appreciation >> (adherence) >>>> to The Apache Way. It would be useful, I think, if this was a focused >>>> effort w/i the foundation. >>>> >>>> Of course, there is a lot of overlap between ComDev and this effort, and >>>> so the questions are how best to address this. Maybe some sort of >> sub-cmmt >>>> under ComDev? Or spinning this out ala D&I (but as a PMC to avoid the >>>> problems that cmmt encountered and to engender trust and >> collaboration)? Or >>>> basically focus on it w/i ComDev with the structure "as is"... I think >>>> having one person "tasked" with herding the cats and coordinating the >>>> effort would be useful (and I volunteer to do so), no matter what >> structure >>>> we decide. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? Ideas? >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
