If we try to summarize we get:

1) JSF
2) JPA repo
3) servlet module (almost already dev if i understood)

I think it is fine to get these 3 items in 0.5. having only JSF makes DS
too much linked to JSF in terms of comm + cdi query is waiting for months,
we need something now even if quickly written and matching less features
than cdi-query itself.


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2013/6/3 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>

> it's not about focusing on JSF, it's about focusing on JSF for THIS very
> release.
>
> The main focus of DeltaSpike is btw currently on the core and not on JSF...
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John D. Ament <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, 3 June 2013, 15:31
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] deltaspike-0.5 features
> >
> > -1 for JSF support being a focus, since it makes it look like DS is a JSF
> > specific library (of course this is only my opinion).
> >
> > This was one of the benefits we had in Seam3, since all modules were at
> the
> > same level (solder being core of course), it didn't prefer any one
> > technology over another.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Adrian Gonzalez
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >>  Sorry, forgot :
> >>  - EAR support.
> >>
> >>  Regards,
> >>  Adrian
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>   De : Adrian Gonzalez <[email protected]>
> >>  À : "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>  Envoyé le : Lundi 3 juin 2013 15h18
> >>  Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] deltaspike-0.5 features
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hello,
> >>
> >>  +1 for me too for :
> >>  - port the CODI Conversation and related scopes to DS (Group etc.)
> >>  - port the ViewAccessScope to DS
> >>
> >>
> >>  Also, didn't looked if JSF and REST bridge for DS Exception Handling
> > where
> >>  available for 0.4.
> >>
> >>  If not it would be good to have them in 0.5.
> >>
> >>  Thanks,
> >>  Adrian
> >>
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>  De : titou10 titou10 <[email protected]>
> >>  À : [email protected]
> >>  Envoyé le : Lundi 3 juin 2013 14h43
> >>  Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] deltaspike-0.5 features
> >>
> >>
> >>  For us  DS v0.5 should be focused on the JSF module and particularly
> >>  on porting CODI scopes top get rid of CODI asap. ie:
> >>  - port the CODI Conversation and related scopes to DS (Group etc.)
> >>  - Enhance the WindowScope. (at least
> >>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-374 )
> >>  - port the ViewAccessScope to DS
> >>  - Tie the current JSF CDIfied ViewScope to a new anotation that can be
> >>  used for producers (@PageScope ?) to mimic Seam2 "Page Scope".
> > Current
> >>  JSF @ViewScope annotation can only be set on classes.
> >>  Note that "PageScope" is different from CODI
> > "ViewAccessScope".
> >>  ViewAccessScope live until there are no more referenced by ANY view.
> >>  PageScope object live in one and only one view until the view is
> >>  dismissed..)
> >>  - Clean/update the JSF module documentation
> >>  Thanks
> >>
> >>  2013/6/2 hantsy <[email protected]>:
> >>  > I think the programming way to get the CDI bean via BeanProvider
> >>  > manually can be accepted...
> >>  >
> >>  > I would like the following will be added into the Apache DeltaSpike
> as
> >>  > soon as possible.
> >>  >
> >>  > 1. import the CDI query aka the JPA Repository API
> >>  > 2. improve the JSF scopes and Conversation support(nested, @Begin,
> > @End
> >>  > etc which are supported in Seam2), and add other Seam3 Faces
> > facilities,
> >>  > Formvalidation, inputContainer etc.
> >>  > 3. improve Security support, Authentication API for social(oAuth,
> etc)
> >>  > and stateless web service...and allow use multi Authenticators in one
> >>  > project. eg. /rest  REST web service  use stateless
> authentication(eg,
> >>  > BASIC, Base 64 encoded), other urls select a generic Authenticator.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > Hantsy
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > On 6/1/2013 23:45, Matt Benson wrote:
> >>  >> RE Bean Validation, I agree and enthusiastically invite anyone who
> > has
> >>  an
> >>  >> itch to work on Bean Validation and CDI to come help out
> > implementing BV
> >>  >> 1.1 at Apache BVal :D
> >>  >>
> >>  >> Matt
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> >>  [email protected]
> >>  >>> wrote:
> >>  >>> as mentioned earlier i'm not sure about the bv parts (just
> > for
> >>  injection).
> >>  >>> therefore you just need to enable any bv 1.1 implementation
> > (via
> >>  >>> default-provider) and you get even more.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> @thomas:
> >>  >>> the only missing parts besides that are the remaining scopes
> > (the rest
> >>  is
> >>  >>> in already).
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> imo it's way more important to finish [1].
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> regards,
> >>  >>> gerhard
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-335
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>> 2013/6/1 Thomas Andraschko <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>> the most important feature are propably:
> >>  >>>> - finish the extended JSF scopes
> >>  >>>> - type view navigation
> >>  >>>> - injection BV artifacts
> >>  >>>>
> >>  >>>> so the most users could switch from CODI to DS. We
> > currently do not
> >>  use
> >>  >>>> more features in the most apps.
> >>  >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >>  >>>> 2013/6/1 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>>
> >>  >>>>> Cdi query stuff would be great too
> >>  >>>>> Le 1 juin 2013 13:12, "Mark Struberg"
> > <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>  >>>>>
> >>  >>>>>> Yes should mainly be a bugfix release with only a
> > few new features.
> >>  >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>> LieGrue,
> >>  >>>>>> strub
> >>  >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>  >>>>>>> From: John D. Ament
> > <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>>>>> To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg
> > <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>>>>> Cc: deltaspike
> > <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 June 2013, 13:07
> >>  >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] deltaspike-0.5 features
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> Mark,
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> A little aggressive based on how long it took
> > to get 0.4?  Should
> >>  >>> this
> >>  >>>>> be
> >>  >>>>>> a small release then?
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> I'd like to add some level of
> > BeanValidation support in this
> >>  >>> release,
> >>  >>>>>> looks like the CODI and Seam features are pretty
> > similar; so adding
> >>  >>>>> support
> >>  >>>>>> for a ConstraintValidatorFactory that creates
> > injectable references
> >>  >>>> would
> >>  >>>>>> be a good one (I was about to kick off that
> > email).
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> John
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Mark Struberg
> > <[email protected]>
> >>  >>>>> wrote:
> >>  >>>>>>> Hi!
> >>  >>>>>>>> It's time to go for planing ds-0.5.
> >>  >>>>>>>> I'd say the release should be pretty
> > small this time. Mostly bug
> >>  >>>> fixes
> >>  >>>>>> and a few minor enhancements. And max 1 or 2
> > bigger bullet features.
> >>  >>>>>>>> The goal is to release ds-0.5 end of this
> > month.
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> A few things on the list as I remember so
> > far:
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Finish graduation and apply latest
> > changes to our Docs.
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Servlet module. Please add JIRAs which
> > feature you like to see
> >>  in
> >>  >>>>> this
> >>  >>>>>> module
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Improve the JSF module. We still miss a
> > few features from CODI
> >>  >>> and
> >>  >>>>>> seam-faces
> >>  >>>>>>>> . improve ClientWindow handling
> >>  >>>>>>>> . improve the typesafe navigation
> >>  >>>>>>>> . add @ConfigurationScoped and
> > @ViewAccessScoped
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Improve the configuration
> >>  >>>>>>>> . brainstorming about configuration
> > 'categories' as requested a
> >>  >>> few
> >>  >>>>>> times already
> >>  >>>>>>>> . ProjectStage and/or property specific
> > configuration
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> This DISCUSS will be closed in 72h. New
> > feature requests after
> >>  that
> >>  >>>>> time
> >>  >>>>>> will be handled in deltaspike-0.6 (unless they are
> > blockers).
> >>  >>>>>>>> The timeframe I would suggest:
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Implement new features during 2013-06-12
> >>  >>>>>>>> * Bugfixing and documentation until
> > 2013-06-19
> >>  >>>>>>>> * start with the release on 2013-06-23
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> Any objection, ideas, feedback?
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> txs and LieGrue,
> >>  >>>>>>>> strub
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >
> >>  > --
> >>  > Hantsy Bai
> >>  > Blog: http://hantsy.blogspot.com
> >>  > LinkedIN: http://www.linkedin.com/in/hantsy
> >>  > Github: https://github.com/hantsy
> >>
> >
>

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