On 6/27/2019 6:54 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: ...
This is not a first amendment right issue. And the first amendment was both documented and voted on, and the rationale is widely available. None of these apply to the purported "first principle" that you cite.
I have just checked the foundation document for the ASF, the Certificate of Incorporation at https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/certificate.html. The only rule about payment is item 4: "No part of the net earnings of the Corporation shall inure to the benefit of, or be distributable to, the Corporation's members, directors or officers, or any other private person, except that the Corporation shall be authorized and empowered to pay reasonable compensation for services rendered and to make payments and distributions in furtherance of the purposes herein set forth." If we assume, for the sake of argument, that knowledge gained from the Outreachy internship idea would further the creation and maintenance of open source software, by helping the D&I committee increase the base of contributors and their range of life experience, then payment seems to be explicitly authorized rather than forbidden. Of course, regardless of any of this discussion, the D&I committee would have to convince the board that any payments it recommends would further the ultimate purpose of the ASF. The no payment for code rule seems to be a deeply ingrained tradition that has worked well, at least from the point of view of successful programmers in wealthy countries. I believe now it is complicating efforts to change the ASF in positive directions, away from limiting itself to a very narrow demographic, especially when the tradition is interpreted as broadly as possible. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
