> On 27 Jun 2019, at 20:59, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2019-06-27 13:22, Naomi S wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 18:52, Ross Gardler >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have seen NO discussion on the topic of who the mentors are and minimal >>> discussion on how we evaluate proposals. >>> >> >> I will note that this very thread ("[DISCUSS] Outreachy framework >> proposal") was supposed to be the start of that conversation. > > And I would like to continue that topic, but until the noise abates and > the S/N is restored here, I refuse to do so. I simply haven't the energy > to wade through the piles of vitriol. > > I'll leave a few points here, and hopefully someone can pick up on them: > > * We need a double blind evaluation system that masks project name, > applicant name, specific details, etc. > * We need a way to ensure that mentors actually are capable of > committing the time necessary for this programme, to check in with > the admins on regular intervals to ensure this is happening, and to > blacklist them from future involvement if they are unable to meet > those expectations and they do not have an acceptable excuse, since > real money will have been wasted. (Doctor's note, death in the > family, etc.) > * We need a double-check that the projects involved agree to follow > not just the ASF CoC, but the Outreachy CoC, and any other imposed > requirements > * We need a ruler by which we can measure the quality of the project > in terms of its suitability for an intern - what will the intern > *gain* by working on the project? Or is it just self-interest of > the requesting PMC/org? Quantified and qualified, preferably. > * We need to review the tagged areas Outreachy provides to ensure > that the applications we vet cover a broad range of opportunities > within our Foundation, not 100% documentation or internal-facing > tools. > * We should find a volunteer to reach out to our compatriots within > Fedora and Debian to see how they coordinate and vet their > similar opportunity programs.
And to add - quite a few of those are excellent examples of chores one would not want to burden a volunteer who came here to code with — but where the ASF would be willing to pay someone to do this if a community so desires it. Dw.
