On 6/27/2019 11:54 PM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On 28 Jun 2019, at 08:34, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2019-06-28 2:17 a.m., Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On 28 Jun 2019, at 00:15, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote:
It sounds like we're in agreement...however, I just wanted to say, for what
it's worth, that my big responsibilities to the ASF projects that I support are:
* Issue triage and management
* Answering questions from the community re: the project
* Community building based on the above - such as encouraging people to
write code, documentation, and to do a good job
* Project management
* Release engineering
* CI/CD
I agree that these efforts are far, far more important than my time on the D&I committee,
the board, or this or on other mailing lists. But most of these aren't directly
"furthering the codebase" of those projects. They are amplifying others' efforts so
that the entire project benefits.
Do you see how your statement could be read in a way that excludes my work, or
those of other non-code contributors?
Eh - obviously yes; my own contributions to the ASF are much along the same
line.
But I think we were talking about all the additional value that Outreach et.al.
can bring to the table ? Nor our own or compete with them.
I think we both would agree that non-code contributors are essential to our
projects and that we need to welcome them with bigger arms, but our language
sometimes still lags behind.
Absolutely essential. And, in the context of this puzzle, also an area where we
have more room to hire assistance if that serves our communities primary goal.
Dw.
For interns, it is important that they have the opportunity to do work
that aligns with their career goal. That means someone who will be
applying for a technical writer job should be doing documentation.
Someone who will be applying for programming jobs should be coding...
My reasoning is that open source is one of the ways of getting past the
need-experience-to-get-experience problem.
