Hi *, On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 03:20:19PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote: > Le mardi 08 mars 2005 � 22:19 +0100, Christian Lohmaier a �crit : > > > Why didn't you create one? > > Remember: OOo is an OpenSource project. Everybody is invited to > > /contribute/. > > > > The questions I raised weren't personal, but come from many bog standard > Linux users messages I have seen elsewhere.
The answer was not personal either. > I put myself squarely in the position of that user, i.e. not having an > ounce of development brain, let alone an understanding of how rpms work. > Contribution in the form you mention simply isn't viable for the vast > majority of users. Sigh. It not necessary that the most clueless of the users tries to contribute. One single contributor is enough. If there is no demand, then nothing will be done. > > > - why can't I choose graphically where to install OpenOffice.org like I > > > used to be able to do ? > > > > Because now you can install OOo like every other package. If you want a > > graphical interface, use a GUI for RPM. > > I'm sorry, but I disagree. Your anwser is like saying : here hapless > child, I gave you a cake with a cherry and cream on it in Version 1.x.x, > and now for Version 2, which I've trumpeted as a super-duper improved > cherry cake, there isn't going to be any cream or even any cherry.. > Which cake would I rather have ? No. I'm saying: "Look, here is OOo - install it as you would install any other program for your distribution." Having a "setup program" is far from being the usual thing on linux. > > > - how can I choose which filters to install when I use the RPMs ? > > > > Simply don't install/install the xsltfilters package. > > > > > - where's the customized setup installation gone ? > > > > The customized setup has been obsoleted by different packages. Only > > install those components you like to have installed. This is pretty much > > the same as with the old setup. > > Ah, and therein lies the crunch. "Pretty much the same" isn't "the same" > when you live in userland. But the new way is the same it works with virtually every other program the user installs on linux. And don't argument with advanced setup-programs and then bring in the dummy user. Doing a user-defined setup is an advanced task. Novices or clueless people should not do this. And usually they don't do it. > If you try and install some of the modules > without all of the core, you get a nice little error message telling you > that this isn't possible, but, and this is a big BUT, the RPM script > won't go and install that particular RPM for you (at least not in the > beta). What rpm script are you talking about? Most GUIs for RPM can handle the dependencies and suggest to install the missing package as well (given they are in the same location). rpm itself is capable of doing this as well (using the "-aid" switch but this is advanced usage again - one has to tell rpm where to get the missing packages beforehand). > I'd still rather have my cherry and cream topped cake ;-) See, people complained: Why does OOo come with this [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup-crap? Why are there no RPMs? Why are there no debian packages? Why can't I install OOo without a running X-Server? Now that these are solved people scream: "Where did the setup go?" ciao Christian -- NP: Kittie - Suck --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
