Saransh I don't want to quelch the enthusiasm. And, I know we've tried a lot of different channels over the years.
Let me suggest that before you spend too much time on this that you do a two week test. And look at the existing channels as mentioned by Ed and others. Then, ask for votes in support. The participation model is important, but more importantly than channels are people. James On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM Saransh Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > Another thing in mind which got, that we have less activity over > stackoverflow, I have observed answers over it get used. > > We should focus on providing our own filtwr there. > > Thanks > > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 02:14 Ed Cable, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Saransh, I think having asynchronous communication channels in addition >> to the mailing lists are good and we have a discourse forum set up and >> configured. You could further help in extending that if you'd like. >> >> You can access at >> https://discourse.mifos.org/ >> >> The Gitter channels work well for conversation desired related to each >> repo. As Awasum mentioned there is an ASF slack and a Mifos slack but we >> want our channels to be as open and searchable as possible. >> >> Ed >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 06:55 Awasum Yannick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For the use case you want, Discord will work better or a separate slack >>> work group. I only suggested ASF Slack as we already had a channel there >>> which is not being used. >>> >>> But go ahead and setup the Discord workspace. I have no objection...But >>> the best help will usually be obtained on the mailing list as most >>> experience people are here. >>> >>> Also dicussing issues on Github PRs and JIRA tickets has more long term >>> history and categorization which will ease someone doing postmortems or >>> research around issues... >>> >>> At the end of the day, discussions around open source projects should be >>> Open by default. There is a saying at the ASF that "If it did not happen on >>> list, then it never happened" >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Awasum >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:37 PM Saransh Sharma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> How, could we create more channels relevant to this? >>>> >>>> The whole idea to separate the concerns of the conversation. >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:57 Awasum Yannick, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think we have a Fineract channel on Apache Software Foundation Slack >>>>> workspace: the-asf.slack.com >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 2:36 PM Saransh Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Look Michael here the live example this folk does not even know, how >>>>>> to create JiRA issue . >>>>>> >>>>>> This remind of having some dedicated page for new comers to know what >>>>>> is what like many folks are struggling to understand this only. This >>>>>> reduces the friction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gents please share opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:02 Saransh Sharma, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 18:57 Saransh Sharma, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could integrate JIRA with chat it would move and encourage devs >>>>>>>> and community to form quick bonds and will help everyone to get along. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Its Ok if you cannot help atm, but it would be great if your >>>>>>>> presence is there once in a while. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The key idea is to get folks bonding from outside world quickly and >>>>>>>> elevate the information discord. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 18:53 Michael Vorburger, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for asking, unfortunately I wouldn't have the time to >>>>>>>>> follow along a chat channel. Having said that, I think it's a great >>>>>>>>> idea, >>>>>>>>> and can only encourage the community to set this up, and use it. One >>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>> to keep in mind perhaps is that not everyone will be on chat, so do >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> chat for helping to answer people's questions, have discussions, etc >>>>>>>>> but do >>>>>>>>> it in addition to not instead of still also posting major news on >>>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>>> raise JIRA, leave comments in PRs, etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Honestly mailing is more like old way but good for developers. In >>>>>>> my opinion creating a Jira issue is best but to discuss around it over >>>>>>> chat >>>>>>> could be more better since it will be real time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another thing I have observed, so far a lot of folks couldn't get >>>>>>> much help because mails get lost somewhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another point is most of the dev focusing on Ui and mobile app can >>>>>>> use chat, gsoc folks, I understand few folks are not available but >>>>>>> that's >>>>>>> the key if they are on move and can respond via chat it will be amazing >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the community to be motivated and be lively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We could keep some rules just like you mentioned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 13:38 Saransh Sharma, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We could also add jira webhooks also and github pr abd issue list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:18 Saransh Sharma, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So far it looks like this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:14 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like to try this out? Seems like we can get this up >>>>>>>>>>>> and running I saw current gitter it's filled with many things we >>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> categorize them. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:13 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks could you provide me your username on discord? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Michael are you also interested? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:10 Aleksandar Vidakovic, < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Saransh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... can help out... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:11 AM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can mak few folks admin also and managers to take care of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the channels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would be interested? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 13:04 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have created categories, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome Category >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outreach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off Topics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Events >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local Chapters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You guys can suggest what other channels can be added under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above categories. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:57 PM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://discord.gg/B2HKVz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey anyone wish to checkout out discord app, i have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created some channels to start with . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its on mobile also. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can set some rules, and some manager who could help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigate new users and support old members. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gitter is free, but lacks channels , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks usually ask questions and post queries related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the development. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My opinion is we can channel based approach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #mobile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #this and that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could help us broaden quality conversations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about moving away from gitter if gitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does that we should use there only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone yet used discord ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:14 PM Enoobong Ibanga < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open to suggestions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 07:43, Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion we should migrate to something simpler. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does everyone feel about it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 11:49 Enoobong Ibanga, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitter.im/openMF/mifos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 04:03, Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like other oss community do we have a single place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss ideas real time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am referring to chat / irc or slack or maybe a place >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to brainstorm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have seen many oss community has such places I saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mifos has giiter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could we propose some alternative if we don't have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saransh Sharma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Research Partner* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Muellner Internet Pvt Ltd * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea of separation of me and you is amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Company Website <https://www.muellners.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Company Linkedin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/muellners> * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Company Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/muellners> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This mail is governed by Muellner® Internet Private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Limited's IT policy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this e-mail and any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanying documents may contain information that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise protected from disclosure. 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