On Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 06:07 James Dailey, <jamespdai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saransh > > I don't want to quelch the enthusiasm. And, I know we've tried a lot of > different channels over the years. > > Let me suggest that before you spend too much time on this that you do a > two week test. And look at the existing channels as mentioned by Ed and > others. Then, ask for votes in support. > While idea is to have a streamlined mode to communicate, because there many level of discussion sure some happens over email some over chat. I am more focused to second class citizens of apache fineract who are the users. This could build and strengthen the community and we could receive information . > > The participation model is important, but more importantly than channels > are people. > > > James > So guys anyone has any other ideas? We can start with votes as well as dry run I have already started let me know if some one is missing. We could do this for couple of weeks. > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 3:01 AM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.com> > wrote: > >> Another thing in mind which got, that we have less activity over >> stackoverflow, I have observed answers over it get used. >> >> We should focus on providing our own filtwr there. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 02:14 Ed Cable, <edca...@mifos.org> wrote: >> >>> Saransh, I think having asynchronous communication channels in addition >>> to the mailing lists are good and we have a discourse forum set up and >>> configured. You could further help in extending that if you'd like. >>> >>> You can access at >>> https://discourse.mifos.org/ >>> >>> The Gitter channels work well for conversation desired related to each >>> repo. As Awasum mentioned there is an ASF slack and a Mifos slack but we >>> want our channels to be as open and searchable as possible. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 06:55 Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> For the use case you want, Discord will work better or a separate slack >>>> work group. I only suggested ASF Slack as we already had a channel there >>>> which is not being used. >>>> >>>> But go ahead and setup the Discord workspace. I have no objection...But >>>> the best help will usually be obtained on the mailing list as most >>>> experience people are here. >>>> >>>> Also dicussing issues on Github PRs and JIRA tickets has more long term >>>> history and categorization which will ease someone doing postmortems or >>>> research around issues... >>>> >>>> At the end of the day, discussions around open source projects should >>>> be Open by default. There is a saying at the ASF that "If it did not happen >>>> on list, then it never happened" >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Awasum >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:37 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How, could we create more channels relevant to this? >>>>> >>>>> The whole idea to separate the concerns of the conversation. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:57 Awasum Yannick, <awa...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think we have a Fineract channel on Apache Software Foundation >>>>>> Slack workspace: the-asf.slack.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 2:36 PM Saransh Sharma <sara...@muellners.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Look Michael here the live example this folk does not even know, >>>>>>> how to create JiRA issue . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This remind of having some dedicated page for new comers to know >>>>>>> what is what like many folks are struggling to understand this only. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> reduces the friction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gents please share opinion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 19:02 Saransh Sharma, <sara...@muellners.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 18:57 Saransh Sharma, <sara...@muellners.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We could integrate JIRA with chat it would move and encourage devs >>>>>>>>> and community to form quick bonds and will help everyone to get along. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Its Ok if you cannot help atm, but it would be great if your >>>>>>>>> presence is there once in a while. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The key idea is to get folks bonding from outside world quickly >>>>>>>>> and elevate the information discord. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 18:53 Michael Vorburger, <m...@vorburger.ch> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for asking, unfortunately I wouldn't have the time to >>>>>>>>>> follow along a chat channel. Having said that, I think it's a great >>>>>>>>>> idea, >>>>>>>>>> and can only encourage the community to set this up, and use it. One >>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>> to keep in mind perhaps is that not everyone will be on chat, so do >>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>> chat for helping to answer people's questions, have discussions, etc >>>>>>>>>> but do >>>>>>>>>> it in addition to not instead of still also posting major news on >>>>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>>>> raise JIRA, leave comments in PRs, etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Honestly mailing is more like old way but good for developers. In >>>>>>>> my opinion creating a Jira issue is best but to discuss around it over >>>>>>>> chat >>>>>>>> could be more better since it will be real time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another thing I have observed, so far a lot of folks couldn't get >>>>>>>> much help because mails get lost somewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another point is most of the dev focusing on Ui and mobile app can >>>>>>>> use chat, gsoc folks, I understand few folks are not available but >>>>>>>> that's >>>>>>>> the key if they are on move and can respond via chat it will be >>>>>>>> amazing for >>>>>>>> the community to be motivated and be lively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could keep some rules just like you mentioned. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 13:38 Saransh Sharma, <sara...@muellners.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We could also add jira webhooks also and github pr abd issue >>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:18 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So far it looks like this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:14 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like to try this out? Seems like we can get this up >>>>>>>>>>>>> and running I saw current gitter it's filled with many things we >>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> categorize them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:13 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks could you provide me your username on discord? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Michael are you also interested? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 16:10 Aleksandar Vidakovic, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Saransh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... can help out... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:11 AM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can mak few folks admin also and managers to take care of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the channels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who would be interested? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 13:04 Saransh Sharma, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have created categories, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome Category >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outreach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Off Topics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Events >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local Chapters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You guys can suggest what other channels can be added >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under above categories. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:57 PM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://discord.gg/B2HKVz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey anyone wish to checkout out discord app, i have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created some channels to start with . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its on mobile also. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can set some rules, and some manager who could help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigate new users and support old members. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gitter is free, but lacks channels , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks usually ask questions and post queries related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the development. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My opinion is we can channel based approach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #mobile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #this and that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could help us broaden quality conversations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about moving away from gitter if gitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does that we should use there only. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone yet used discord ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:14 PM Enoobong Ibanga < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eiba...@teamapt.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open to suggestions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 07:43, Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion we should migrate to something simpler. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does everyone feel about it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 11:49 Enoobong Ibanga, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eiba...@teamapt.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitter.im/openMF/mifos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 04:03, Saransh Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sara...@muellners.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like other oss community do we have a single place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss ideas real time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am referring to chat / irc or slack or maybe a place >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to brainstorm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have seen many oss community has such places I saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mifos has giiter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could we propose some alternative if we don't have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saransh Sharma >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Research Partner* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Muellner Internet Pvt Ltd * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea of separation of me and you is amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Company Website <https://www.muellners.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Company Linkedin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/muellners> * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Company Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/muellners> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This mail is governed by Muellner® Internet Private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Limited's IT policy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The information contained in this e-mail and any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanying documents may contain information that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise protected from disclosure. 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