Hey James,
Thanks for clarifying norms here:

A. 1 & 2 is quite important.
Can I ask you or PMC (as you are the representative of PMC) to dis allow
“for profit” company to be ever mentioned on public facing records such as
Board Reports.

I am also asking here if it would be fair to exclude “non for profit” being
mentioned. At times, the open source communities worldwide work or organise
themselves in such a legal structure.

So, member is an individual, even though affiliated to a company.
But if say a member is an affiliate of say an international foundation such
as Gates Foundation, or of Muellners Foundation, they may be here only to
represent their Foundation’s non for profit cause with this project.
At times non for profit work is promoted & preserved by governments in line
with freedom of speech and assembly such as voluntary organisation, what
this may mean, is a collection of people may come across contributing to
this project.

I have noticed individual contributors adding in the Board report, the name
of their “for profit” company. I want to discontinue this here.

I have a clear understanding that non for profits should be allowed to be
mentioned as ASF also relies on grants, funds and resources from such
organised groups. Since “for profits” generate revenue, they should have a
different means of recording the members’ affiliation with those companies,
not the Board reports or this mailing list.

B. 3 is very very important and sometimes we have failed to bring many
important conversations on this list, causing hurt, exclusion and non
diversity in this community’s direction.

Thanks

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 06.24, James Dailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> All -
>
> Apache Fineract operates under the rules established by the Apache
> Software Foundation.
> https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html
> https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/
> see our stuff:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=103094318
>
> 1. As a community of people, we are not here as our company or
> institution, we are independent persons (individuals).
>
> Individuals familiar with or employed by commercial Fineract based
> Solution Providers, are very welcome to discuss that solution here,
> especially IF it includes ways in which ideas, requirements, and code
> can be implemented and contributed back to the community. Apache is
> non-commercial.
>
> Similarly, solutions that connect to Fineract are welcome to help
> document and improve APIs, test scripts, and the like, to enable good
> system boundaries.
>
> 2. We abide by norms of good behavior and assume good intent. Positive
> discussion usually starts with identifying the contribution you - as
> an individual - want to make.
>
> It helps immensely to follow norms of a single topic in a threaded
> email conversation.  I.e.Please do not respond to an email w a
> different topic.
>
> 3. We strive to have all our discussions on this public listserv.
> This may strike some as 'old fashioned' but it is there for good
> reasons.  If you use outside tools (chats, gitter, slack, etc), those
> conversations should be brought back to list, or "they didn't happen".
> It's ok to share via tickets as well, but you get more mileage having
> a discussion.
>
> 4. The dev list is public and we allow all in.
> Over time, positive contributions by participants on list, in content
> for wiki, in tickets, and in code, earn recognition and merit
> consideration for additional responsibilities to and on behalf of the
> project.
>
> James Dailey
> On behalf of the Fineract PMC
>
-- 
Ankit
Managing Partner
Muellners Inc

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