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James Dailey on behalf of the PMC


On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:27 AM Muellners ApS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kevin!
> It's sad that you use words like "lurking" and "free", ridiculing fellow
> human beings with some sort of shortsightedness, and demonstrating a lack
> of empathy. Must it be a self defeating conscious experience?
>
> *Let me try again to discard your assumptions,& speculations once again. I
> have written in "Bold" what could be helpful to bring clarity.*
>
> *in the forthcoming messages:*
> * "We" - it means that I am representing the word "WE" with this community
> in the context to which a statement may be written.*
> *"I" - is me but not only me. This is quite abstract. Is it not? "*I" is
> clearly an individual contributor here just like you.
> *"MF"- Muellners Foundation*
> *"ASF" - Apache Software Foundation*
>
> You again speak without qualified data and your statements are nothing
> substantial but presumptive.
> 1. If you can operate at a detailed level of consciousness, then please
> scan this list, and also the code repo of github.com/apachefineract and
> see what & how MF is contributing PRs of features consistently for more
> than a year now. Look for more information. I have been personally
> observing and assisting this project's adoption, even before ASF incubated
> this. So "years" of lurking(why would you even use such adjectives cmon,
> such a shameful choice of words). ( ASSESS THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT
> CONTRIBUTION BUT BE RESPECTFUL. THIS IS NOT YOUR BACKYARD.)
>
> Let me return some *free* advice: "Please share qualified data. PERIOD.
>
> 2. MF cannot speak for the entire community. Neither can I. It is an
> outside organisation. These ASF rules don't bind MF members outside this
> list. Community members shall speak with their own voices. (ESTABLISH
> CLARITY OF ROLES OF STAKEHOLDERS HERE. )
>
> 3. Thanks and once again, please respond with qualified information, or
> else don't bother. What's the point otherwise? Nobody has time to
> discuss gossip & hearsay. (RESPOND OR SHARE DATA POINTS CITING ANY
> STATEMENT WITH ANY ADJECTIVE OR USE OF WORDS DEFINING SOMEONE ON THE LIST)
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:57 PM Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 08:46 Muellners ApS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin, thanks for emailing me.  I would like to state "we" here always
>>> mean community when I write these emails.
>>>
>>
>> And that right there is the crux of the issue.
>>
>> You don't speak for the community.
>>
>> Your organization does not speak for the community.
>>
>> Neither have earned the merit to do so.
>>
>> My advice to you: Get a freemail address, spend a few *years* lurking on
>> Apache lists to gain a better idea of how it works, work on small patches
>> to code/documentation, start building merit, and post about your
>> organization on its resources not ours.
>>
>> Regards, KAM
>>
>
>
> --
> Ankit
> Managing Partner
> Muellners ApS, Denmark
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