Filed HBASE-26387

张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2021年10月21日周四 上午9:49写道:

> Done.
>
> Let me file an issue to update our HEADER.html.
>
> 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2021年10月21日周四 上午8:41写道:
>
>> I think we have reached an agreement here to move the stable pointer
>> 2.4.x.
>>
>> Since 2.4.7 has been released, let's move the stable pointer to 2.4.7.
>>
>> Will do this later today.
>>
>> Thanks all for helping!
>>
>> Viraj Jasani <vjas...@apache.org> 于2021年10月12日周二 下午2:59写道:
>>
>>> Sounds good. Created HBASE-26352
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-26352>, will get to it
>>> after
>>> completing some additional testing.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:47 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I was thinking we can add these things to the upgrade section.
>>> >
>>> > https://hbase.apache.org/book.html#upgrade2.0.rolling.upgrades
>>> >
>>> > Nick Dimiduk <ndimi...@apache.org> 于2021年10月11日周一 下午10:59写道:
>>> >
>>> > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 2:24 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Could you please file an issue to add these to our ref guide? I
>>> think
>>> > > these
>>> > > > are all very important experiences for our end users.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Question: Is the ref guide the place where we want to document what
>>> > > community testing has been performed on any given release? What would
>>> > such
>>> > > a section look like? Who do we imagine will benefit from such
>>> > information?
>>> > > How will they find it? How will they volunteer new results?
>>> > >
>>> > > Viraj Jasani <vjas...@apache.org> 于2021年10月11日周一 下午3:46写道:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Moreover, I have also tested rollback from 2.4 to 1.6 and after
>>> > taking
>>> > > > care
>>> > > > > of some rsgroup ordering issues as part of the downgrade, we have
>>> > seen
>>> > > > > smooth downgrade as well (with the only exception that last RS
>>> that
>>> > > stays
>>> > > > > on 2.4 needs to be shutdown non-gracefully or killed, because of
>>> > > > > HBASE-17931).
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 1:10 PM, Viraj Jasani <vjas...@apache.org
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > I have done some chaos testing as well as ingestion testing 3-4
>>> > times
>>> > > > on
>>> > > > > > the recent 2.4 versions, each spanning the duration of around
>>> 8-10
>>> > > hr.
>>> > > > > And
>>> > > > > > also tested rolling upgrade from 1.6 to 2.4 a couple of times
>>> after
>>> > > > > > applying the recent fixes on adding missing CFs in meta table
>>> as
>>> > part
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > > > the upgrade. (Upgrade requires upgrading all RS first before
>>> > masters)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Things seem to be running well so far, no significant concerns
>>> have
>>> > > > been
>>> > > > > > identified with default configs so far.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Andrew and I will keep testing this release line on different
>>> > > > > > infrastructure with different tooling, but for now, I have
>>> > sufficient
>>> > > > > test
>>> > > > > > data to provide my +1 for moving the stable pointers to 2.4.
>>> And
>>> > > thank
>>> > > > > you
>>> > > > > > for starting this thread, Sean!
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 1:46 AM, Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> Hi folks!
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> I'd like us to move the stable pointer from 2.3.z releases to
>>> > 2.4.6+
>>> > > > > >> releases.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> The last time we talked about doing so[1] there was a desire
>>> to
>>> > get
>>> > > > > >> some documentation together on what we as a community expect
>>> from
>>> > > the
>>> > > > > >> "stable" release line. We have an issue tracking those
>>> needs[2],
>>> > but
>>> > > > > >> AFAICT we haven't had sufficient community interest to get
>>> > criteria
>>> > > > > >> together over the last 6 months.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> The 2.3 release line started in July 2020 and there is active
>>> > > > > >> discussion about declaring it EOL[3]. 2.4 releases have been
>>> going
>>> > > > > >> since Dec 2020 and there is attestation that 2.4 has been as
>>> or
>>> > more
>>> > > > > >> stable than 2.3 in a testing environment[4].
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> Personally, I view the "stable" pointer as simply a way to
>>> say "if
>>> > > you
>>> > > > > >> are new to our community we'd like you to use this release." I
>>> > > > > >> personally think 2.4.z currently meets that standard and we
>>> need
>>> > not
>>> > > > > >> block updating on something more rigorous.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> What do folks think?
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> -busbey
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> [1]:
>>> > > > > >> "[DISCUSS] Updating the 'stable' pointer to 2.4.2" :
>>> > > > > >> https://s.apache.org/6cz3t
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> [2]:
>>> > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-25690
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> [3]:
>>> > > > > >> "[DISCUSS] EOL 2.3" : https://s.apache.org/pgkge
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> [4]:
>>> > > > > >> Message on thread "[DISCUSS] EOL 2.3"
>>> > > > > >> https://s.apache.org/ks7wk
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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