I would strongly prefer not adding "non-newbie". It seems to have limited
use, and is another way to increase the state space of JIRA labels,
components, etc, etc.

Let's just find some good first-patch candidates and tag them.

On 20 October 2016 at 16:03, Jim Apple <[email protected]> wrote:

> Since I have heard no objection to these tag names, I'm picking
> "newbie" and "non-newbie". I am going to start emailing some PMC
> members to ask them to categorize issues.
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jim Apple <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How shall we distinguish between the following three classes of issues:
> >
> > 1. Un-triaged ramp-up issues
> > 2. ramp-up issues that are not for newbies
> > 3. newbie issues
> >
> > We could add two tags, "newbie" and "non-newbie". We could call the
> > second tag something other than "non-newbie", like "second-patch" or
> > "sophomore".
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Marcel Kornacker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Please don't add that comment. :)
> >>
> >> What's currently labelled ramp-up is often not a good newbie task (and
> >> maybe not even a good ramp-up task). The best way to identify newbie
> >> tasks is for a few senior engineers to sift through the ramp-up tasks
> >> and pick out maybe a few dozen that truly qualify as newbie tasks.
> >>
> >> I'm happy to help out with that when I get back.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Jim Apple <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> The Impala JIRA has 129 tasks that have no assignee, are still open,
> >>> and are labelled ramp* (i.e. ramp-up, ramp-up-introductory, etc.).
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to find which of those tasks are good tasks for someone who
> >>> is making their first Impala patch. I intend to promote those on one
> >>> or more of : the blog, the twitter account, this list, the user list,
> >>> helpwanted.apache.org, and so on.
> >>>
> >>> The tasks should be the kind of thing that someone won't need too much
> >>> hand-holding on, once their have their dev environment up and working.
> >>>
> >>> To do this, I was thinking of adding a comment to all 129 tasks to ask
> >>> the watchers of each issue if it should be labelled "newbie". This
> >>> will send hundreds of emails, which is a bummer, but it seems to me
> >>> like the best way to track the discussions and decisions.
> >>>
> >>> What does everyone think?
>



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