I'm not into this weekly also, but as a branch starting point we might
still consider a RC.
And since it is step of "certain" impact we could go through the
"Release" Process too.
What does a RC mean to us? It is a point where we are considering it
to be good and stable enough
for releasing, right? At this point we start with a branch and/or a
Release Candidate signaling,
"hey this is really good stuff" go ahead and try it. :)
A lot of people are "afraid" of using SNAPSHOT versions. RCs are
usually more accepted as part of
Integration tests before going to a final Release.

2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
> If it's official, we have to vote on those.
> If they're not, i agree with Jamie that snashots are imho good enough,
> especially if we branch ahead of the release for stabilization.  This
> means that when we branch, new features will go to trunk, so having
> weekly RC doesn't bring much imho.
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:22, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
>> IMHO Concerning the RC, since it is a "Release Candidate" does it
>> really need to go through the full Release Vote cycle? I would not
>> think so, a release itself, yes it does. On the other hand you could
>> call a Release Candidate just a "named" snapshot, or better a tagged
>> snapshot at a certain "interval". I don't think we have to go through
>> the process of "version"-ing it at JIRA and so forth.
>>
>> just my .02€ :)
>>
>> Achim
>>
>>
>> 2011/2/4 Jamie G. <[email protected]>:
>>> I agree with Guillaume that our setup at ASF isn't really designed to
>>> do weekly releases. Right now the turn around for doing a full release
>>> is about 80 hours -- 72 hours for the required vote (assuming all goes
>>> well) and the better part of a day between setting things up &
>>> completing a release (environment configuration, building the code and
>>> pgp signing, nexus management, updating wikis, readmes, JIRA, hudson,
>>> emailing lists, etc).
>>>
>>> Snapshots could be named 2.2.0.rcX-SNAPSHOT, but I don't see how this
>>> would be much of an improvement over just using 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT and
>>> asking the community to please test the lastest builds (which I
>>> believe Hudson is already doing).
>>>
>>> This reminds me that I should setup a Hudson profile for karaf-2.2.x,
>>> I'll get on that shortly :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Well, we can push -SNAPSHOT to the apache repo, y not unoffical -RCs? But 
>>>> well,
>>>> it is not a must-have, only an idea :)
>>>>
>>>> kind regards,
>>>> andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>> Remember that a release has to be voted on.  We can't publish
>>>>> artifacts that the PMC has not voted.
>>>>> So I don't think that's really something doable within the Apache
>>>>> Software Foundation.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 14:20, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Yeah, it makes sense.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm agree with Andreas, it's more Release Candidates more that 
>>>>> > Milestone.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It could be part of the material created with the branch aka 
>>>>> > Hudson/Jenkins
>>>>> > build.
>>>>> > We can have a timeline to release one RC per week or something like 
>>>>> > this.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > WDYT ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> > JB
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 02/04/2011 02:19 PM, Andreas Pieber wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think this will be rather RCs than Ms; In addition are always work
>>>>> >> somehow. If
>>>>> >> you could push them completely inofficial to the apache-repo I think 
>>>>> >> this
>>>>> >> is a
>>>>> >> good idea getting more ppl to validate it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> kind regards,
>>>>> >> andreas
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:58:30PM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> +1 on the release branch with a time window to get stable, we might
>>>>> >>> consider to release a Milestone at the starting point of such a
>>>>> >>> branch. WDYT?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Achim
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> 2011/2/4 Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Big +1 from my side. I think 2-3 weeks should be sufficient.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> With the current release cycles of 2-3 month means pushig 2 month
>>>>> >>>> features
>>>>> >>>> and than 2-3 weeks stabilizing.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> kind regards,
>>>>> >>>> andreas
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:01:59AM -0330, Jamie G. wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> +1 for creating the Karaf 2.2.x branch now, and moving trunk version
>>>>> >>>>> up to 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT. Perhaps we should state a policy of 
>>>>> >>>>> branching
>>>>> >>>>> trunk in the lead up to a dot zero release X weeks before a planned
>>>>> >>>>> release time? This would make early branching standard practice for
>>>>> >>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Jamie
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Well, not sure why my environment works, but it does ...
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> What we've discussed several times by now :) While the jdk14.asc
>>>>> >>>>>>> files are
>>>>> >>>>>>> included in the install/deploy cycle the regular ones are not --> 
>>>>> >>>>>>>  I
>>>>> >>>>>>> cant release
>>>>> >>>>>>> with those files missing
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>> >>>>>>> andreas
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can do that release.  What's the problem with the 
>>>>> >>>>>>>> retrotranslator
>>>>> >>>>>>>> plugin ?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since pax-url uses the maven-translator-plugin I can't release
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pax-url, but if
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> someone else jumps in here I can push out pax-web
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:26:05AM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for the stable 2.2.x branch for releasing.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding the removal of the assembly changes a +1 from me too.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding Pax-web and pax-url as being the only SNAPSHOT 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> open, I'm
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> working on it but maven didn't like me last night, I wasn't 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> sign the jars.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will try another run tonight. Or if someone wants to step up 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> help me
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> out on this, feel free. The latest version of pax-url and 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pax-web
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> available on Github
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> can be released. I can manage the release notes later tonight 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That could well be another valid option.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David, can Geronimo live with a 2.99-SNAPSHOT for a while or
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that be needed soon ?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I guess we could also release a bunch of RC somehow if needed 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> geronimo milestones.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 07:24, Andreas 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for doing so and the name. I think we are already very 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> with this. We
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> should have forked about 4 weeks ago...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I think we should consider removing assemlies and 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> features
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> /assembly /
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> framework from 2.2.x. IMHO this requires more work and fine
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tuning before
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2011 07:06, "Guillaume Nodet"<[email protected]>  
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections, I'll branch karaf-2.2.x now in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> order to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> get the release stabilized as suggested by Andreas.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This means any new development will occur in trunk which 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT ?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 04:34, Andreas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pieber<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, there are many points in my head about this for some 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hope I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get them out straight here. If I'm not able to make any of 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> clear don't
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to ask :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all I'm completely with Guillaume. I don't like 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> blows
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. We have a standard and an enterprise distribution and a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in future one for android... STOP. I think this is not 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> should go.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, tbh I also don't like the way client projects
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as smx)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweak Karaf around to make it runnable. This makes 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy to use understand/start with.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next I think the root of all evil are our configuration 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The need
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to tweak system.properties, custom.properties,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jre.properties,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> org...features.cfg to get a running, custom distribution. 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fourth: I don't like that we need to use our own maven 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to build
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO a sign that Karaf is becoming much too big...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last but not least, I hate that I have to google for all 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> urls
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and collect them locally to not forgetting them :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so far to the problems. According to the mails I've 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by now I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> think I'm
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the only one aware of those problems :) -->  I would
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> propose some
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> roadmap
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get this straight again:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) branch off karaf-2.x branch now (independent of the 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay as it is now. Some ppl already depend on
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-2.1.99-SNAPSHOT and I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that we'll make friends if we make any drastically
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to this
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Start developing karaf-2.99.99-SNAPSHOT right now.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) As a first step I think we should add something like an
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> online
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> registry to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf where feature files could be found. E.g. something 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf.apache.org/registry.xml. This would allow us to make
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf behave
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having to pack everything together during assembly
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phase. Here it
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also help to add a features:addregistryurl command allowing
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own registries.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Move enterprise.features.xml into aries project, split
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> standard.features.xml
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the different projects: karaf-obr, karaf-ssh, 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ops4j-web
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g. with
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jetty),
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring2, spring3, ... and create own projects for the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> components. I'm
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Jamie that this will complex the release process, but
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> everything we
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> create features files for shouldn't be in the core. As said
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> even don't
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that we have features.xml in the core at all. All 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> features.xml
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the registry. This way we could guarantee 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf still
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaves the same although we've reduced the core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> packages/repo/distribution.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) We have to extend the kar/features.xml model drastically
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> variation
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> points for the different configuration possibilities in 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E.g. we
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> variation point for lib, jre.properties, etc/(to add
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional property
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> files),
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system (where we drop additional .jre bundles, ...),
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brandings, ... With
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that some variation
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> points require Karaf to reboot (we couldn't change 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> runtime). Which
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> means we have to cache the changes and apply them on 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there will be some pain in config file merging, but I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think this
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth the effort.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Now that we've removed all the specific things from 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build process completely to one minimal distribution of 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (at maximum
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional for android?!) without using the features 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concepts
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel. This will also allow us to develop the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> directly in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kernel without the burden of forking the process 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) I think by that we're almost finished now. We can start
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> features/kar packages for cxf, apache ds, camel, ... and 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them again
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> registry. For this process the karaf-maven-plugin 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> could/should
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) Now a user will first of all create its own kar/features
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which tweak
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel as required. Finally he can either provide the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kar/features bundle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The assembly process will (and should) always look like
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (reduced):
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution: distribution
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kar-list (branding, docs, ... everything is a kar file,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing more
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> here)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO with all of this we can finally provide only one very
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone only experimenting/developing can do a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:install war, cfx, ds
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin:reboot
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else can create distributions as he likes.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I know that not all of those points are new or 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusively
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by me,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> some go a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> little bit a different direction than discussed by now and 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> them are
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nailed down to the latest detail (by now). Please don't 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> flame
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me because
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of this;
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that this is not the only way to go but it somehow
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feels right to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> me :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so... wdyt?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 12:07:42AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the problem is that Karaf itself isn't a container 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel or
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CXF and we have some users that just want to plain JRE
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaks for running SAAJ because they don't care.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServiceMix on the other hand is dedicated to host such
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that's why the default config works better.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with the idea of profiles in karaf, but we need to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure we
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up with having to include and depend on all 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Karaf itself has imho no purpose of becoming a default
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of CXF, Camel, ActiveMQ, Directory, etc...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think each project could easily provide a karaf 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features so
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they would easily be deployed in a bare Karaf, but at some
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point, it
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not really scale nor make sense to put everything 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweaking the system properties is sometimes needed 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need to deploy, because OSGi is lacking on certain 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the JVM isn't really modular, depending on how you
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things).  Some people are happy with using the JAXB
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the JVM without being able to change it easily, some
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people may
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be able to deploy those as OSGi bundles.  Karaf 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do both
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the same time.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another point, is that the amount of third party 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming increasingly important in Karaf, and that's 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming a
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for simply releasing Karaf in an efficient manner.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm tempted to say that we should push back on those
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have them provide karaf features, rather than having karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features for those.  I'm mostly thinking here about 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pax-web
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war support (which is really cool, no doubt on that) and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aries and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for things we don't embed by default (jpa, etc..).
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly don't have a good answer yet, but I just want 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone is aware of the potential problem.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we keep adding dependencies, our release cycles will
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily be
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer and longer ....  For example camel has a release 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of one
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor version every few months, ServiceMix even less, 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CXF has
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much less external dependencies and manage to keep a high
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequency of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases.  2.2 could have been shipped early december, 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but we
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for aries.  Now aries has been released, but we 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some snapshots dependencies on some felix or ops4j
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components.  And
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've added stuff that's not completely stabilized.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, I'm just trying to state facts so that 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the situation.  I'm personnaly not really happy
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2 release is planned since 2 months but still can't get 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it clearly means that we're going in a wrong 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the rant.  There are a bunch of unrelated things
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, ...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:29, Jean-Baptiste
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Onofré<[email protected]>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claus already raised a Jira about that.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume wasn't very ok to set the jre.properties by
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I launched a discussion thread about
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> profiles. It's
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically the kind of tuning which is part of a profiles.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waiting for the profiles design, we can provide a Karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution including this kind of tuning related to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel/CXF/SMX.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I add Karaf dev mailing list to see what the team says :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/02/2011 11:21 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these adapted jre.properties only usefull for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servicemix and the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend Service Factory or do you think it would make 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> them in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the karaf distribution.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 11:02
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you can take a look on the ServiceMix one too :)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/02/2011 10:26 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I was able to solve the problem. I had to 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jre.properties to exclude some packages from the system
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> export.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The jre.properties from the Talend Service Factory 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.talend.com/products-application-integration/talend-service-factory-community-edition.php
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Christian Schneider [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 09:52
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to run Apache Camel (feature camel-cxf) in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using a fresh Karaf 2.1.3 download.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I start karaf and enter:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:addurl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.6.0/xml/features
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:install camel-cxf
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get an exception while starting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to resolve 97.0: missing requirement [97.0]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package;
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02.02.2011 09:46:08 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.main.SimpleFileLock
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INFO: locking
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,765 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Starting JMX OSGi agent
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,781 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering MBean with ObjectName
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3] for service 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service.id[10]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.osgi 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | There are no MBean servers 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registred,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> register
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeans
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,890 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,968 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.dev is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,218 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,234 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.admin.command
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,250 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.commands
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,375 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.packages
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,609 | INFO  | Thread-5         |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FeaturesServiceImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,640 | INFO  | rint Extender: 3 | SecurityUtils
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | e.sshd.common.util.SecurityUtils   80 | 25 - 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sshd-core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 0.4.0 |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BouncyCastle not registered, using the default JCE
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,968 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.BundleStateMBean to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=bundleState,version=1.5
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.ServiceStateMBean to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=serviceState,version=1.5
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.FrameworkMBean
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=framework,version=1.5
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.service.cm.ConfigurationAdminMBean to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.PackageStateMBean to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=packageState,version=1.5
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,234 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FeaturesServiceImpl
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,656 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContextLoaderListener
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  356 | 44 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Starting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ExtenderConfiguration
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | al.support.ExtenderConfiguration  150 | 44 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | No custom
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extender
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detected; using defaults...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TimerTaskExecutor
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  106 | 38 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Initializing Timer
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:09,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   83 | 51 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator starting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:09,312 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   86 | 51 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator started
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   90 | 51 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopping
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   92 | 51 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopped
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContextLoaderListener
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  449 | 44 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Stopping
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TimerTaskExecutor
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  179 | 38 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Cancelling Timer
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:12,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Console
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | araf.shell.console.jline.Console  188 | 11 -
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console - 2.1.3 | Exception 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> executing
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Exception: Could not start bundle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl/1.3.2_1
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in feature(s) camel-cxf-2.6.0: Unresolved constraint in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 97.0:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:326)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:254)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:250)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command.InstallFeatureCommand.doExecute(InstallFeatureCommand.java:51)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command.FeaturesCommandSupport.doExecute(FeaturesCommandSupport.java:39)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.OsgiCommandSupport.execute(OsgiCommandSupport.java:38)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.commands.basic.AbstractCommand.execute(AbstractCommand.java:35)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandProxy.execute(CommandProxy.java:50)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:229)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.executeStatement(Closure.java:162)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Pipe.run(Pipe.java:101)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:79)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandSessionImpl.execute(CommandSessionImpl.java:71)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.jline.Console.run(Console.java:170)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)[:1.6.0_23]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: 
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unresolved
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraint
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> resolve 97.0:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3409)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1709)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:905)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:892)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:323)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  ... 14 more
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> >>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> >>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>

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