Paolo, I did not want to limit the discussion in any way. Only note I have is that unless the discussion is in this mailing list it did not happen for the whole community. That is one of the root rules at Apache.
I am however trying to highlight that discussion without action items can be informative, but it lacks action. Action items can be: creating a ticket, opening a Proposal or a Vote, making a PR. Making an action should be made clear for the community so there are no assumptions that something was acted on, will be acted on or decision was made. As an example we talked about the release cycle in ML [DISCUSSION], but no release has been planned based on that cycle. Therefore no action has been taken or is planned since there is nobody assigned to act on it. Toni On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 1:08 PM Paolo Bizzarri <pibi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Toni, > > thank you for the proposal, but I am very confused. > > If it is a proposal on what we as Apache Kie Community we intend as > discussion, proposal and vote and the related processes, I think the wiki > page you created is veyr far from that. > > I would expect something like > > [DISCUSSION] > - what we intend for discussion > - general rules for discussion > - conflict resolution in case of stall > > and so on. > > Am I missing something? > > Thank you. > > P. > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 9:20 AM Toni Rikkola <trikk...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > This is a proposal I created based on the discussion that happened in > > [DISCUSSION] Discussion, proposal and voting process-Apache Mail Archives > > <https://lists.apache.org/thread/tzqhh1qg9yr7v6wk0bwnk921y15yr0qk> > > > > It is time to eat my own dog food and prove discussion is not just a > group > > of people dreaming. This proposal will lead to a vote and action will be > > taken if the vote is approved. > > > > The goal I have is to form community guidelines and this is the first > item > > and step we need to agree on. > > Everyone is welcomed to give feedback and suggest additionals, removal, > > fixing a type or change of wording. Preferred way is to use this list, > but > > if you direct message me I will reference the request here anonymously. > > > > I will edit the wiki page based on requests I see fitting and then pass > it > > to voting once I feel it is good enough. > > > > [PROPOSAL] Community guideline to define discussion, proposal and vote - > > Apache KIE - Apache Software Foundation > > < > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KIE/%5BPROPOSAL%5D+Community+guideline+to+define+discussion%2C+proposal+and+vote > > > > > > > Thank you > > Toni Rikkola > > >
