I changed the text > > On a negative vote on the mailing list to
> When voting has ended and vote result does not allow it Just to make it more clear what is meant. Toni On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 1:23 PM Toni Rikkola <trikk...@redhat.com> wrote: > Paolo, > > I did not want to limit the discussion in any way. Only note I have is > that unless the discussion is in this mailing list it did not happen for > the whole community. That is one of the root rules at Apache. > > I am however trying to highlight that discussion without action items can > be informative, but it lacks action. Action items can be: creating a > ticket, opening a Proposal or a Vote, making a PR. > Making an action should be made clear for the community so there are no > assumptions that something was acted on, will be acted on or decision was > made. As an example we talked about the release cycle in ML [DISCUSSION], > but no release has been planned based on that cycle. Therefore no > action has been taken or is planned since there is nobody assigned to act > on it. > > Toni > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 1:08 PM Paolo Bizzarri <pibi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Toni, >> >> thank you for the proposal, but I am very confused. >> >> If it is a proposal on what we as Apache Kie Community we intend as >> discussion, proposal and vote and the related processes, I think the wiki >> page you created is veyr far from that. >> >> I would expect something like >> >> [DISCUSSION] >> - what we intend for discussion >> - general rules for discussion >> - conflict resolution in case of stall >> >> and so on. >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> Thank you. >> >> P. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 9:20 AM Toni Rikkola <trikk...@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > This is a proposal I created based on the discussion that happened in >> > [DISCUSSION] Discussion, proposal and voting process-Apache Mail >> Archives >> > <https://lists.apache.org/thread/tzqhh1qg9yr7v6wk0bwnk921y15yr0qk> >> > >> > It is time to eat my own dog food and prove discussion is not just a >> group >> > of people dreaming. This proposal will lead to a vote and action will be >> > taken if the vote is approved. >> > >> > The goal I have is to form community guidelines and this is the first >> item >> > and step we need to agree on. >> > Everyone is welcomed to give feedback and suggest additionals, removal, >> > fixing a type or change of wording. Preferred way is to use this list, >> but >> > if you direct message me I will reference the request here anonymously. >> > >> > I will edit the wiki page based on requests I see fitting and then pass >> it >> > to voting once I feel it is good enough. >> > >> > [PROPOSAL] Community guideline to define discussion, proposal and vote - >> > Apache KIE - Apache Software Foundation >> > < >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KIE/%5BPROPOSAL%5D+Community+guideline+to+define+discussion%2C+proposal+and+vote >> > > >> > >> > Thank you >> > Toni Rikkola >> > >> >
