Hi Eike,

Yesterday at 15:29, Eike Rathke wrote:

>> As for issues 1186 and 1187 (am/pm identifiers), they are not used in
>> Serbia and Montenegro at all.
>
> But we do have number formats that use 12 hour formats, which may also
> get imported if you open a document that uses them in a system locale,
> and if displayed in your locale there should be some distinction
> possible, even if your language/region normally doesn't use them.

How am I going to define this?  POSIX locales (ISO 14652) state that
"if 12 hour format is not used, this field should be empty" for
t_fmt_ampm field inside LC_TIME. 

I can make something up (and using "am/pm" or "пре/поп" is just
making it up), but what reasons would I use to justify that?  12 hour
format is used only in speech in Serbia and Montenegro, and when we do
that, we either simply say "5 o'clock" if it's clear whether it's 5 in
the morning or 5 in the afternoon, or use different constructs
depending on the time of the day:

  1h: 1 in the morning/night
 13h: 1 in the afternoon
  8h: 8 in the morning
 20h: 8 in the evening
 11h: 11 before the noon
 23h: 11 in the night/evening

(to illustrate how no abbreviations are appropriate)

You're never going to hear someone say "4 before the noon", so using
"пре" (part of "пре подне" or "before noon"; "по подне" is "after
noon") is inappropriate.  And you're never going to hear someone talk
Latin "ante meridium" or "post meridium" either ;-)

In my opinion, if twelve hour format is used, it should be without any
specifiers for Serbian language, even though it would be ambigous.

Cheers,
Danilo

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