Also, I think every l10n community should decide what kind of build should be available, not release meeting attendees. Did anyone ask l10n leads about this?
I wonder how open source communities and media that cover such sofware projects will look at this move. Lp, m. 2010/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> > I vote that wJRE builds get deleted from the servers and only withoutJRE is > served. That way a lot of space will be saved and every user, as you say, > can download Java, if they so require. You can add a link to download page > of JRE in the installtion software, at the end of installation, checks if > Java is installed on the system, and if it is not, it offers a link to > download the latest package if user so desires, notifying her about the > benefits of having Java with JRE installed! > > This is not a community package anymore, it is a Java vehicle. > > > Lp, m. > > 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <[email protected]> > >> Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >> >> Hi Martin, >> >> another thing - JRE is not localized into Slovenian nor in many other >>> languages, unlike OpenOffice.org (I guess Sun doesn't see economic reason >>> to >>> do so for smaller markets). Also, Java and JRE are not opensource >>> community >>> driven projects and community cannot help translate them. >>> >> >> OK, but this cannot be influenced by us (or in a really minor way). >> >> >> In this sense - are wJRE builds still considered l10n builds and >>> community >>> builds and truly opensource? I mean, then JRE should also be localized in >>> that languages, which narrows the list of languages to a much lesser list >>> than it would be with current l10n OOo builds. >>> >>> I do believe this is a serious question that should not be decided only >>> by a >>> single release status meeting but by higher authority body in the OOo >>> community - it has symbolic consequences and steers OOo in a different >>> directions. >>> >> >> You can try to communicate this to the steering commitee channel. Maybe >> they will discuss it then and make a decision. >> >> Best regards >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> >>> >>> Hi, Marcus, >>>> >>>> I personally prefer non-JRE builds as do most users here, I guess. This >>>> decision must be somehow Sun-oriented, I guess? OOo users should have >>>> this >>>> option, IMHO. >>>> If space is the issue, JRE builds are much larger, so it would be a >>>> better >>>> idea to drop the JRE builds. Or JRE builds could be hosted on Sun >>>> mirrors if >>>> JRE is the keyword here. >>>> >>>> At least for Slovenian users I ask of you to build it and give us a link >>>> so >>>> we can download it and distribute it through our own webspace, even if >>>> not >>>> OOo-approved. Most Windows users here would prefer them. Then you can >>>> delete >>>> it from your disks forever. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lp, m. >>>> >>>> 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Hi Martin, >>>>> >>>>> as defined by the Release Status Meeting on Monday there will be only >>>>> JRE >>>>> builds (except for Linux 32/64-bit Debian and Mac OS) as we have not >>>>> that >>>>> much space on the extended mirror system. Because we don't want a >>>>> colored >>>>> matrix or JRE/non-JRE builds we have decided this way. If there is a >>>>> real >>>>> need and still enough space we can upload some more non-JRE builds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The mirror builds seem to be filling up. >>>>>> I looked at: >>>>>> http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/OpenOffice.org/extended/3.2.0rc2/ >>>>>> There is no Windows-without-JRE install builds, but probably they must >>>>>> still >>>>>> be uploaded? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lp, m. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Lp, m. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/1/13 Marcus Lange <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Martin, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The upload of builds (Dev build, Beta, RC etc.) will be announced on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> relea...@ooo mailing list. When the download is possible it's >>>>>>>> announced >>>>>>>> on d...@qa. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Martin Srebotnjak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait, Rafaella, are RC2 builds already built and available >>>>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> m. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/1/13 Rafaella Braconi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kevin Scannell ha scritto: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Rafaella, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Irish team has a complete localization but somehow we were >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> omitted from the RC2 builds at the link you give below. See >>>>>>>>>>> http://l10n.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107057. >>>>>>>>>>> Is there anything we can do to get builds in time for testing >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2 release? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks for reporting! I've commented and reassigned the issue. >>>>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RC2 >>>>>>>>>> build is not available in Irish (ga) will be built and uploaded. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Rafaella >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> >
