Greg,

> Can you think of a candidate who can dictate architecture both to Juniper
internal engineering and all other community participants? How’s your spare
time now-a-days?

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net>
wrote:

> Harshad,
> while in general I agree. It is simply too hard to find such. Since Linus
> and Vish are not applying for the job I am afraid that an attempt to impose
> such as system, may lead to what I experienced while Nicira led Neutron. I
> would not call that benign.
>
>
>
> Do you remember Bill Jolitz by any chance? Then you understand my concern
> about handing the keys over. BSD386 kicked Linux ass when they both came
> out. Linux was just barely more functional then Minux, yet it put BSD386
> into the ground in less than 1 year. Sun’s ARB worked ok for every Berkley
> ass on it, there was a kindly mentor who would help you understand what
> your code should be, creating a counter balance.
>
>
>
> If we find the right candidate we can reorganize the ARB around a chief
> architect with assistants to help carry the load. So far no volunteers
> internally from Juniper. Can you think of a candidate who can dictate
> architecture both to Juniper internal engineering and all other community
> participants? How’s your spare time now-a-days?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Harshad
> Nakil <hna...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 7:49 PM
> *To: *"Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>
> *Cc: *dev <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
>
> *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source -
> PLEASE VOTE
>
>
>
> IMHO architecture board does not work and design by committee does not
> work.
>
> You really need a benevolent dictator.
>
> Regards
>
> -Harshad
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Gasparakis, Joseph <
> joseph.gaspara...@intel.com> wrote:
>
>  Thank you all. Clearly option is the winner, and this is the direction we
> take moving forward, thank you all for your voting. Voting is now closed.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: gu...@certusnet.com.cn
>
> Date: 9/23/17 03:17 (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: "Gasparakis, Joseph" <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>, dev <
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source -
> PLEASE VOTE
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>      Support option #2.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Gengliang Guo
>
>
>
> *From:* Gasparakis, Joseph <joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>
>
> *Date:* 2017-09-20 03:34
>
> *To:* 'dev@lists.opencontrail.org' <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
>
> *Subject:* [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source -
> PLEASE VOTE
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Transitioning into an open source model it makes sense for Juniper to have
> for the first public release more control than others since they have all
> the knowledge and it makes sense for them to be able to prevent radical
> architectural changes.
>
>
>
> In the last TSC WG call we came up with a few proposals:
>
>
>
> 1.       Allow someone in Juniper have veto powers to reject a proposed
> change
>
> 2.       Create an  Architectural Review Board (ARB as defined in
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zNIVEOY3XsnUdYKy1ddwgjJoOV-
> Iwx1pHU_8ViYlTFs/edit
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1zNIVEOY3XsnUdYKy1ddwgjJoOV-2DIwx1pHU-5F8ViYlTFs_edit&d=DwMCaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=VQrMBvKeploIeBocya36pOwODBVDvmbjFqFgowqJuhs&m=9TFxAtQI_7jSQ2oa1xI7ets0wS_J49PN6d5qWwwVBn8&s=qvV9qp2w3N36Lg5uaVH2QzdUKHdJjOe0teYOjavDCgg&e=>)
> that will be reviewing in order to accept or reject architectural
> proposals, and Juniper to have the majority of the seats so they can
> control by the power of majority what goes in and what not.
>
>
>
> If we decide for 2, we can choose at a later stage if we will have an ARB
> ongoing or only for this first release.
>
>
>
> Please vote one of the two options and for the sake of openness and
> transparency REPLY ALL so your vote is visible to the whole list. If I
> receive any private votes I will be forwarding them to this list.
>
>
>
> Also please vote by end of day today as we would like to have this
> decision made during the summit tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
> Joseph Gasparakis
>
> Intel Corporation
>
> Networking Platforms Group
>
> Architecture Division
>
>
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