The most valuable property of Open Contrail is that it comes from the same code base as commercial Contrail.
Renaming it means to many customers a divorce from the original principle. //RR On Dec 1, 2017 05:12, "Harshad Nakil" <hna...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forcing OpenContrail to give up identity that got us here since last five > years is not right. > It is also being ungrateful to creativity. > > I never understood the insistence to be part of LF. > > > Regards > -Harshad > > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net> > wrote: > > I will ask the LF folks, > > But please note that RedHat does not actually own, or tried to own Linux > as a trademark. > > RedHat site seems to claims that Enterprise Linux is a registered > trademark it is actually not. > > > > Enterprise Linux was filed and abandoned in 2008 by some magazine, RedHat > filed Enterprise Linux Advanced Platform which also > > was abandoned in 2008 and trademark was never granted according to US > > > > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.3 > > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.1 > > > > So RedHat is using Linux in the product name without owning the trademark. > > They also should not have a registration mark against Enterprise Linux on > their site as It is not a USA registered trademark. > > > > We do need to retain Contrail as trademark not just use it in the product > name. > > > > Both internal lawyers and LF lawyers had a fit. Trust me I did not give up > this fight easily. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > *From: *Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Sachin > Bansal <sban...@juniper.net> > *Date: *Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38 PM > *To: *Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com> > *Cc: *"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org> > *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name > > > > +1 > > > > I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling > a product with ‘Linux’ in its name. > > > > Sachin > > > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan <aran...@live.com> wrote: > > > > I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux > foundation has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to > rename this and create confusion (and dilute brand). > > > > I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like > Docker, Kafka) with commercial version. > > > > Ashish > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Nachi Ueno < > nu...@juniper.net> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM > *To:* Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk > *Cc:* dev@lists.opencontrail.org > *Subject:* Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name > > > > then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) ) > > BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese. > > ________________________________________ > From: Randy Bias > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM > To: Robert Raszuk > Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - > dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org > Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name > > Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it. > > > --Randy > > > *** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes *** > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net<mailto: > rob...@raszuk.net <rob...@raszuk.net>>> wrote: > > Hey Nachi, > > > BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D<https:// > urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia. > org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK- > ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA&m= > 5ZFGzZiZpKyzy_icDopyHBbyzQDA2u-m2oBuxWkoG8c&s=8-Dos0M5o_oo5UMvxqLKv- > KsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D-253Chttps-3A__urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fen.wikipedia.org-5Fwiki-5FNatt-2D25C5-2D258D-26d-3DDwMFaQ-26c-3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-2Dndb3voDTXcWzoCI-26r-3Dcvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-2D8RUttsFy-2DiNDV0QCxFA-26m-3D5ZFGzZiZpKyzy-5FicDopyHBbyzQDA2u-2Dm2oBuxWkoG8c-26s-3D8-2DDos0M5o-5Foo5UMvxqLKv-2DKsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M-26e-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=4SMc5wJ_FVS46-BSw4dDnrpmjQWP4eg0fer2nm244qg&m=j-ad-zSS8GjcSywyx1CU1uUEE-eV09QgzIRaH1RoMCo&s=RcO-O-k8SQa2rTAO1EDy1pTqpcwE8ts7RsrumgQ_P4s&e=> > > > > Do you really want to discourage people from using it :))) ? > > Cheers, > R, > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.opencontrail.org > http://lists.opencontrail.org/mailman/listinfo/dev_lists.opencontrail.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.opencontrail.org_mailman_listinfo_dev-5Flists.opencontrail.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=4SMc5wJ_FVS46-BSw4dDnrpmjQWP4eg0fer2nm244qg&m=j-ad-zSS8GjcSywyx1CU1uUEE-eV09QgzIRaH1RoMCo&s=pn-FHuWo0HvguVdEVs8A61dLcKAyJIG2zNMBa5Y4PkE&e=> > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.opencontrail.org > http://lists.opencontrail.org/mailman/listinfo/dev_lists.opencontrail.org > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.opencontrail.org_mailman_listinfo_dev-5Flists.opencontrail.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=4SMc5wJ_FVS46-BSw4dDnrpmjQWP4eg0fer2nm244qg&m=j-ad-zSS8GjcSywyx1CU1uUEE-eV09QgzIRaH1RoMCo&s=pn-FHuWo0HvguVdEVs8A61dLcKAyJIG2zNMBa5Y4PkE&e=> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.opencontrail.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists. > opencontrail.org_mailman_listinfo_dev-5Flists.opencontrail.org&d=DwICAg&c= > HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=4SMc5wJ_FVS46- > BSw4dDnrpmjQWP4eg0fer2nm244qg&m=j-ad-zSS8GjcSywyx1CU1uUEE- > eV09QgzIRaH1RoMCo&s=pn-FHuWo0HvguVdEVs8A61dLcKAyJIG2zNMBa5Y4PkE&e= > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.opencontrail.org > http://lists.opencontrail.org/mailman/listinfo/dev_lists.opencontrail.org > >
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