I will ask the LF folks,
But please note that RedHat does not actually own, or tried to own Linux as a 
trademark.
RedHat site seems to claims that Enterprise Linux is a registered trademark it 
is actually not.

Enterprise Linux was filed and abandoned in 2008 by some magazine, RedHat filed 
Enterprise Linux Advanced Platform which also
was abandoned in 2008 and trademark was never granted according to US

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.3
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.1

So RedHat is using Linux in the product name without owning the trademark.
They also should not have a registration mark against Enterprise Linux on their 
site as It is not a USA registered trademark.

We do need to retain Contrail as trademark not just use it in the product name.

Both internal lawyers and LF lawyers had a fit. Trust me I did not give up this 
fight easily.

Greg



From: Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Sachin Bansal 
<sban...@juniper.net>
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38 PM
To: Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

+1

I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling a 
product with ‘Linux’ in its name.

Sachin

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil 
<hna...@gmail.com<mailto:hna...@gmail.com>> wrote:

+1

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan 
<aran...@live.com<mailto:aran...@live.com>> wrote:

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish

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From: Dev 
<dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org>> 
on behalf of Nachi Ueno <nu...@juniper.net<mailto:nu...@juniper.net>>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.

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From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com<mailto:dun...@bluechiptek.com>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org<mailto:dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
<rob...@raszuk.net<mailto:rob...@raszuk.net><mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA&m=5ZFGzZiZpKyzy_icDopyHBbyzQDA2u-m2oBuxWkoG8c&s=8-Dos0M5o_oo5UMvxqLKv-KsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M&e=<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D-253Chttps-3A__urldefense.proofpoint.com_v2_url-3Fu-3Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fen.wikipedia.org-5Fwiki-5FNatt-2D25C5-2D258D-26d-3DDwMFaQ-26c-3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-2Dndb3voDTXcWzoCI-26r-3Dcvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-2D8RUttsFy-2DiNDV0QCxFA-26m-3D5ZFGzZiZpKyzy-5FicDopyHBbyzQDA2u-2Dm2oBuxWkoG8c-26s-3D8-2DDos0M5o-5Foo5UMvxqLKv-2DKsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M-26e-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=4SMc5wJ_FVS46-BSw4dDnrpmjQWP4eg0fer2nm244qg&m=j-ad-zSS8GjcSywyx1CU1uUEE-eV09QgzIRaH1RoMCo&s=RcO-O-k8SQa2rTAO1EDy1pTqpcwE8ts7RsrumgQ_P4s&e=>>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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