(And then there are people like me and my "Solr 4.x Deep Dive" book - I
guess I'll finally have to get back to catching up, and have a great excuse
for a new/revised title.)
-- Jack Krupansky
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Rafalovitch
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is there going to be Lucene/Solr 4.11?
On 13 October 2014 10:37, Jack Krupansky <[email protected]> wrote:
Now... I'll have to admit that maybe there might be clarity among the
Lucene
dev/user crowd, but mostly I'm referring to the Solr user crowd, who
aren't
up on Lucene internals.
I do admit having troubles envisioning the Solr 5 introduction book
start with information I see so far:
"Solr 5 is a great new release. _Users_ will benefit from using the
new amazing features X, Y, and Z that take Solr beyond already great
capabilities in version 4 and now allow <scenario 1>, <scenario 2>,
and <scenario 3>".
I am not saying there is nothing to slot into that phrase above. But
in all the discussions, it seems unclear what the actual user benefits
will be. The index-corruption is an internal - if very important issue
- but not something we can phrase user benefits around. "Increased
stability" is a user-level term I guess, but it is semi-negative as it
automatically implies previous _general_ instability.
This is an ongoing problem with Solr - changes that occur strictly in
Lucene
with no source changes in Solr, never get reported as improvements to
Solr -
and it is nigh impossible for a Solr user to examine a list of Lucene
changes and determine how they may or may not impact the use of Solr
features.
I confirm this perception. I remember looking at one of the recent
Solr release notes and thinking: "hmm, not much here, why release" to
then click-through to the Lucene notes and seeing the significant
number of important items. Most of the people do not click-through
though and those who do, do not necessarily understand which of the
issues do have impact on Solr.
I guess what I am saying is that it would be nice for somebody to
figure out the Solr 5 user story at some point _before_ we actually
shipped it. And the earlier, the better.
Regards,
Alex.
P.s. If somebody wants to discuss this user-level perception at Solr
Revolution, I am happy to shout the first round of drinks. :-) Or,
hash it out virtually in the popularizers community I setup:
https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853
Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov
Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart
Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853
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