When I finished my INGOT talk, Greg Kelleher of IBM said he thought the concept was great but that the name INGOT sucks. My response was Ok, so give me a better one to replace it. What I need is solutions, not identifying problems without solutions because I have plenty of those. So in that sense I agree that fault finding can be frustrating if it doesn't supply a solution. However, I also understand Jacqueline's dilemma. We have a marketing plan and many things in it that are unresolved. How do we keep focussed on the priorities identified if there are constantly new ideas being tossed into the frame? In the end this is an Open Source project so volunteers can decide where they put their resource, but do spare a thought for the leadership who have to try and maintain some direction.
Made it to Houston now and just relaised I haven't got Gary Fredrick's E-mail address, so if anyone has it can they E-mail it to me or if Gary is reading this can you E-mail me? Sorry for the top posting but this web mail makes "proper" replies difficult. Regards, -- Ian --- Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:04:42 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Marketing] Ethos of SpreadOpenOffice.org Anthony Long wrote: > So what do you see as the strategy for promoting OOo 2.0? If an SFX > style campaign won't work, what will? Man! You took the words right out of my mouth! That was *exactly* what I was just starting to type. Yes, I see a strong, permeating attitude of "lets-do-nothing"-ness which is incredibly frustrating. Ideas are shot down, but nothing new is proposed instead. It's very easy to shoot down an idea. After all, no idea is absolutely prefect. It's hard to come up with an idea and make a suggestion though. Especially when you know that whatever you propose will be shot down just because. As I keep saying, we need to shift towards an attitude of *action*. This project, OOo, feels *stagnant*. It's like a death swamp around here. It's everywhere. Let's get things moving for the love of God. I don't care if the idea is perfect. If I don't have an improvement, then we should go with it. If I *do* have an improvement, I need to seriously evaluate whether proposing it is really worth the subsequent delay caused by an endless thread of discussion. Or whether the project's better off going with an idea which is not my ideal but it's *an* *idea* and is better than doing nothing at all. I think that SpreadOpenOffice.org is a good idea. Alexandro has given an example where duplication of ideas did not cause the latter to not work. So let's go ahead and do it. Just to make sure I'm being clear here: I DON'T CARE if SpreadOOo is a perfect idea. I DON'T CARE if SpreadOOo is just as successful as SpreadFirefox. But I really, truly and absolutely care that SOMETHING happens. Like I say in my sig line: "I don't want it perfect, I want it tuesday". The 2.0 release is only 2 months away. How much more time are we going to waste in endless discussion? Are we just going to do nothing at all because we can't decide to do anything in perticular? OOo 2.0 is a spectacular opportunity to reach out the masses and we are missing so much of it because of the strong negativity here and the strong resistance to doing anything. I don't know about everyone else, but I vote for action: +1 Cheers, -- Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. http://oooauthors.org | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
