Bjoern, Le 4 oct. 2010 à 20:56, Bjoern michaelsen a écrit :
> > Hi Charles, > > please let me offer a personal opinion to the topic ... > > On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:10:34 +0200 > "Charles-H. Schulz" <[email protected]> wrote: >> What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit >> discussions on the OOo lists about TDF. It would be unwise and you >> would give the most blatant illustration that OOo is not a true >> project, and simply a product. Both of us know that's not the right >> way to work this out. > > Well, you cant have a cake and eat it too. Claiming "independence" on > the project homepage and in the very logo that started this thread, > while discussing this on a mailing list of the very organization you > claim independence from is laughable. Uploading such a logo to the wiki > provided by the very organization you claim to be in need of > replacement is outright ridiculous. Some people thought they wanted to celebrate the 10 years of OOo together as one community. I always thought it would not end up well, but hey, no good deed goes unpunished. > >> Let me stress again: we're not going to avoid this topic, and we're >> going to discuss it, publicly. No chance to cut it. > > Please do, but on _your_ public mailing lists or whatever > infrastructure you have available. While it is IMHO perfectly > appropriate and on topic to discuss technical issues of the > shared/inherited codebase on openoffice.org mailing lists, it is > totally offtopic to discuss the marketing for a derived and > marketingwise fundamentally different product. You would likely be > offended when NeoOffice, Oracle Open Office or Lotus Symphony would be > promoted on TDF mailing lists -- it is offtopic there. No. We're not NeoOffice, Lotus or Oracle Open Office: we are OpenOffice.org, and the statement that was put up by Oracle was drafted between 3 am and 3:15 am by one of your executives in a plane over the Atlantic. I know this because I met him. So don't get caught to whatever line was pushed in the message and repeat it like a mantra. Think about this fact: People who have been working with you guys for 10 years or who generally have contributed their best days, their leisure time, their jobs, to build OOo with you, well, these people, the whole community, is moving away. That's not laughable at all, think about it, and think about it hard. How could we have come up with such a crazy project for which some, if most of you will hate us for the rest of their lives? Again, think about it. > I assume nobody > had the lack of courtesy to do so. Please dont lack it here. I'm not lacking it here, and in the same way please don't lack common sense: it's us moving forward, the whole community. Feel free to put my picture on a wall and throw darts at it that helps you. Best, Charles. > > Best Regards, > > Bjoern > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
