Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval

[Andreas Bartel]

Hi Florian, I'd like to join you in sharing thoughts :-) By the way, to steal Charle's thunder, I am neither mad nor do I hate anyone. I am still doing my job as before and I am pretty much confident that I will continue improving the UX of OpenOffice.org in the future, for quite some time. So no hard feelings at all. I am just thinking how ironic it seems, at least for me, that the company that is paying money for the infrastructure you all use in this very moment is being bashed in a way that makes all of us look very pathetic. The other thing that I've been observing so far is that those who are not sure if they like TDF or OpenOffice.org more are treated with very little respect. Especially on the Germanophone list. Regards, Andreas Am 05.10.2010 12:38, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi, I'd love to share some thoughts that I have already sent to the Germanophone list: 1. We have an OpenOffice.org Community Council, elected in a long, open and transparent process, to ensure this Council represents the Community we are talking about in the best way possible. *EVERYONE* in this Council who is not an Oracle employee, is part of TDF, and also some deputies are with us. The Council's mission is to ensure the will of the Community is respected, and to ensure it's interest is spoken out with an united voice. If all Council representatives despite Oracle support the step, this clearly should make a lot of people think. 2. The feedback we have received so far from the Community (again, the Community we are talking about) has been either very positive, and at worst, "let's see". The only ones talking about two communities, about splitting, about forking, are Oracle people. Why? Why do you think you can speak on everyone's behalf, if the reality seems to look a bit different? These are, very briefly, my thoughts. I still feel responsible for *ONE* Community, our Community. Florian -- Andreas Bartel | User Experience Engineer Phone: +49 (0)40 236 46 - 672 Oracle OFFICE GBU ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Nagelsweg 55 | 20097 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Rijnzathe 6, 3454PV De Meern, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz, Marcel van de Molen, Alexander van der Ven Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment