You’re welcome. I do try to bring a chuckle to everyone’s day. > On Jan 8, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> No, I don’t that useful. If it’s an extensions then it can be activated >>>> using the .mvn/extensions.xml and downloaded on demand. I think for >> Maven >>>> 4.x we just bite the bullet and put Logback in the distribution. Igor >> and I >>>> have done most of the work in the last while and have implementations >> for >>>> Logback, and when I drop the 4.x changes I will have done a ton of work >> and >>>> I’d just like to end the discussion and put Logback in 4.x. >>>> >>>> If we disagree then let’s resolve never to discuss this again because >> it’s >>>> a waste of time. We’ll just leave the simple implementation in there as >>>> it’s probably fine for 99% of people. What Igor suggests I think is a >> fine >>>> compromise. The optional extensions can be built in the main tree so >> that >>>> we know they work, but not distributed by default. If someone wants to >> use >>>> them they can enable them using the .mvn/extensions.xml mechanism. I can >>>> live with optional extensions in the tree, but I’ll never agree to the >>>> default implementation being Log4J2. >>>> >>> >>> OK I'll bite: >> >> I won’t. >> >>> >>> - "I’ll never agree to the default implementation being Log4J2." >>> - "I’m vehemently opposed to integrating Log4J2." >>> >>> Oh, then the irony of the signature: >>> >>> "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. >>> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. >>> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically >>> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of >>> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or >>> goals are in doubt. >>> >>> -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" >>> >>> So... why the vehemence? Why "never"? >>> >>> Gary >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> http://twitter.com/takari_io >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead. >> > > That, preceded by the succinct "I won’t." and "Thanks", the irony is > killing me! Thanks for the laughs ;-) > > Gary > > >> >> -- Benjamin Franklin >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > > > -- > E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
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