What is [1] Nick ? My blog post ? It is probably outdated :( On which version of Maven do you try to have it working ?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Nick Stolwijk <[email protected]> wrote: > Arnaud, > > I have followed this blogpost[1] and to see debug information I have to > adjust my conf/logging/log4j2.xml instead of just add "-X" to the command > line. Also, if I leave the log4j2.xml on DEBUG level, I don't have to > specify the "-X" parameter to see debug. In my case the "-X" doesn't do > anything anymore, maybe I have followed the wrong blogpost. ;) > > With regards, > > Nick Stolwijk > > ~~~ Try to leave this world a little better than you found it and, when > your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate you > have not wasted your time but have done your best ~~~ > > Lord Baden-Powell > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > What do you mean Nick ? > > I think it was implemented. I have the -X flag which is working with > DEBUG > > details > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Nick Stolwijk <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> This isn't a mail to convince anyone between Log4J2 or Logback. > >> > >> I have updated my Maven installation with Log4J2, instead of the > default, > >> which worked fine. > >> > >> I missed one thing and I hope with different log implementations we > still > >> could do this "right". Maven has a nice command line parameter to give > out > >> extra logging, the "-X" parameter. With the Log4J2 in place, this > logging > >> parameter didn't work. I have to change the logging configuration to > >> include DEBUG logging. Is there a way to print out the logging, without > >> regard to the logging framework, to include the debug information when > >> given the "-X" parameter? > >> > >> I think it is very valuable to get extra logging without touching any > >> configuration files. > >> > >> With regards, > >> > >> Nick Stolwijk > >> > >> ~~~ Try to leave this world a little better than you found it and, when > >> your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate > you > >> have not wasted your time but have done your best ~~~ > >> > >> Lord Baden-Powell > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > I’ve no issue with the fix to make any implementation to work, just > the > >> > merging of the log4j2 branch in general. > >> > > >> > > On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Jason, > >> > > > >> > > I really don’t care which logging framework Maven uses. There isn’t > >> > going to be much difference between Logback and Log4j 2 in a batch > >> process > >> > like Maven, although asynchronous loggers might speed up larger builds > >> > somewhat. > >> > > > >> > > However, these comparisons are still incorrect. Log4j is using the > >> ASF’s > >> > git repository and hasn’t really integrated pull requests from github > so > >> > you are comparing apples and oranges. If you look at the changes.xml > >> file > >> > you will see 250 due-to attributions, some of which include committers > >> but > >> > most of which are not. Just in the latest release, 2.5, there were > >> > contributions from 13 individuals outside of the ASF and in the 2.4 > >> release > >> > there were contributions from more than 20. If Logback has only had > >> > contributions from 70+ non-committers since they moved to git, then > >> Log4j > >> > is easily winning that metric. > >> > > > >> > > That said, I don’t use Maven for how cool its logging framework is. > >> > However, Gary’s original complaint about an unsupported SLF4J binding > >> seems > >> > like it should be addressed. Why can’t a user use their own custom > SLF4J > >> > implementation? > >> > > > >> > > Ralph > >> > > > >> > >> On Jan 6, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Jason, I am sorry but to disagree with you. Your statistics are > >> still > >> > not > >> > >>> telling a full story. I can glance at the commit graphs of these > 76 > >> > logback > >> > >>> contributors rather quickly to see really how "diverse" this > >> community > >> > is. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> * 35 (~45%) only ever made 1 contribution > >> > >>> * 18 (~25%) have only ever made 2 contributions > >> > >>> * 16 (~20%) have between 3-10 contributions. > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> This is still awesome. I would love to have 35 contributors making > >> one > >> > change. It all adds up. > >> > >> > >> > >>> That leaves only 7 logback contributors (~10%) who actually do > >> > something. > >> > >>> And of those 7, only 4 committed something in 2015 ... and Cecki > is > >> the > >> > >>> leader by far. It's clearly a very visible one man show with > sparse > >> > >>> contributions from others. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Based on these numbers, I think Log4J2 has the better community > >> > involvement. > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> Everyone will interpret numbers as they wish but it’s a simple > thing > >> > even to make one change in an open source project. 99% of people never > >> do > >> > so to have that number of people make one or two changes is a > >> significant > >> > thing. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Cheers, > >> > >>> Paul > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> A contributor on that page is not a comparison of committers vs > >> not. > >> > >>>> People who have made pull requests to Maven are listed as > >> > contributors. > >> > >>>> Just as they would for Log4J2. A measure, albeit one, of the > >> overall > >> > >>>> diversity of contribution. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> I am writing regarding this statement: "Ceki may do more commits > >> but > >> > it’s > >> > >>>>> certainly not a one man show. 76 contributors for Logback and 8 > >> > >>>>> contributors for Log4J2." > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> The numbers in themselves do not tell a full story. It's in > >> > appropriate > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>>> conclude that since 76 > 8, therefore logback is a better > choice. > >> > The 8 > >> > >>>>> contributors in Log4J2 have been voted in according to Apache > >> bylaws. > >> > >>>>> Conversely, there aren't any bylaws for logback; the logback > >> Github > >> > >>>> project > >> > >>>>> owner can freely grant commit privileges at will ... and > >> evidently, > >> > they > >> > >>>>> do! So the bar for committer rights is much (much) lower than at > >> > Apache. > >> > >>>> I > >> > >>>>> don't think the above comparison is fair toward log4j2. > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> Cheers, > >> > >>>>> Paul > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Arnaud Héritier < > >> [email protected]> > >> > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> great, more constructive feedback :-) > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks Jason > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Both projects are well known and widely used even if log4j v2 > is > >> > >>>> younger > >> > >>>>>>> with less downloads such figures are not really representative > >> > with all > >> > >>>>>>> caches/repositories managers I think. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> I don’t have a single peer that uses Log4j2 and that’s > important > >> to > >> > me. > >> > >>>> I > >> > >>>>>> do not believe Log4J2 is well known or widely use. I think 3 > >> years > >> > of > >> > >>>>>> releases is fairly representative in that Logback is getting > >> close > >> > to > >> > >>>> the > >> > >>>>>> Log4J incoming edge count and if you remove all the incoming > >> edges > >> > from > >> > >>>>>> Apache there are not a lot of users. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> About logback vs log4j I have really no real preference > >> technically > >> > >>>>>>> speaking (I had both branches working in the past and used > them > >> a > >> > lot > >> > >>>> in > >> > >>>>>> my > >> > >>>>>>> professional life - > >> > http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/). > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> In term of community, Log4J is in our apache community and we > >> have > >> > few > >> > >>>>>>> active committers arround. On Logback side even if I really > >> > appreciate > >> > >>>>>> Ceki > >> > >>>>>>> I'm always afraid about this one-man show project. (and Ceki > >> isn't > >> > >>>>>> perfect > >> > >>>>>>> too when we see the nightmare of slf4j-api 1.5+ > >> incompatibilities > >> > we > >> > >>>>>> always > >> > >>>>>>> have in 2016 !!). > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Ceki may do more commits but it’s certainly not a one man show. > >> 76 > >> > >>>>>> contributors for Logback and 8 contributors for Log4J2. It’s > >> stable > >> > and > >> > >>>>>> mature at this point with 54 releases versus 33 for Log4J2. I > >> don’t > >> > >>>> think > >> > >>>>>> any person responsible for picking a package for logging would > >> get > >> > much > >> > >>>>>> support in their organization for Log4J2, as the data would > >> > suggest. I > >> > >>>>>> think with few contributors and usage it would likely be > deemed a > >> > less > >> > >>>> wise > >> > >>>>>> choice than Logback and possibly a risk. There are also lots of > >> > Apache > >> > >>>>>> projects that use Logback. I think pragmatism is a factor in > all > >> the > >> > >>>> other > >> > >>>>>> projects at Apache who selected Logback. Being at Apache > >> obviously > >> > >>>> wasn’t > >> > >>>>>> the determining criterion and it shouldn’t be. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I agree that we are just talking about a logging > implementation > >> > but you > >> > >>>>>> saw > >> > >>>>>>> what it gave for eclipse/aether …. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> I’m not sure what your point is here. No one worked on any of > the > >> > parts, > >> > >>>>>> ever, whether here or at Eclipse. I doubt anyone will work on > it > >> > when it > >> > >>>>>> comes back. So I’m not sure what analogy you’re trying to make. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I'm clearly not enough involved enough in the project to try > to > >> > >>>> convince > >> > >>>>>>> anyone about a choice to do but I can just say that not > having a > >> > >>>>>> colorized > >> > >>>>>>> console in 2016 is .... irritating. > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> For the problem reported by Gary I think that applying the fix > >> in > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >> > >>>>>>> ( > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >> > >>>>>>> ) > >> > >>>>>>> is safe to be back-ported in master. It is just that > >> > >>>>>>> org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactorywas for Log4J 1 AFAIU and > >> now > >> > that > >> > >>>>>>> Log4J2 is release/stabilized there is a new one : > >> > >>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> If I asked Ceki for help I’d get it immediately also. Who isn’t > >> > going to > >> > >>>>>> help there to get their library bundled with Maven? > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> For the replacement of the implementation and activate colors > I > >> > prefer > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>>>>> let active committers decide of what they are doing (I imagine > >> > that for > >> > >>>>>> any > >> > >>>>>>> choice they are doing it doesn't avoid you to use another one > in > >> > your > >> > >>>> own > >> > >>>>>>> distribution ? > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I would prefer log4j2 but clearly I never merged it because of > >> the > >> > >>>> slf4j > >> > >>>>>>> conflict that I don't understand (but I didn't spend a lot of > >> time > >> > on > >> > >>>> it) > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> To me the most important factor is usage, of course you need > some > >> > >>>>>> threshold of developers so that people are working on it but > even > >> > there > >> > >>>> I’d > >> > >>>>>> say it’s pretty sparse in Log4J2. But with widespread usage > comes > >> > >>>>>> examination, issue submissions, pull requests and ultimately > more > >> > people > >> > >>>>>> that contribute and that’s clearly the case with Logback. I > don’t > >> > see > >> > >>>> how > >> > >>>>>> you can logically refute that and see Log4J2 a better choice > >> > because of > >> > >>>>>> what organization it’s developed within? Logback has a > community > >> it > >> > just > >> > >>>>>> doesn’t happen to be here, and Ceki's not some random guy. He > >> also > >> > has a > >> > >>>>>> long track record of open source dedication and contribution. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jason van Zyl < > [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> These are the numbers I arrived at, happy to run them with > >> > different > >> > >>>>>>>> coordinates but thought these were representative: > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', 'log4j:log4j').inE.count() > >> > >>>>>>>> ==>84570 > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > >> 'ch.qos.logback:logback-classic').inE.count() > >> > >>>>>>>> ==>62389 > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > >> > 'org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-core').inE.count() > >> > >>>>>>>> ==>3134 > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> These are incoming edges across all versions of said > >> coordinate. > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> As we said previously when the the question arose again > there > >> > would > >> > >>>> be > >> > >>>>>> a > >> > >>>>>>>> discussion. You may not remember, but I expect there to be a > >> > >>>> discussion. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I have built a graph of Maven Central to analyze the rank > >> (count > >> > of > >> > >>>> all > >> > >>>>>>>> incoming edges) for Log4J2 and Logback and it is clear from > >> those > >> > >>>>>> numbers > >> > >>>>>>>> that everyone has gone from Log4J to Logback. What has > >> happened, I > >> > >>>>>> believe > >> > >>>>>>>> from the numbers, is that the community followed the founder > of > >> > the > >> > >>>>>> project > >> > >>>>>>>> and not the owner project in pretty much the exact same way > >> users > >> > went > >> > >>>>>> with > >> > >>>>>>>> Jenkins and not Hudson. Anyone is happy to take the graph and > >> > verify > >> > >>>>>> this > >> > >>>>>>>> themselves, or generate their own data from the machine that > is > >> > >>>> housing > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> copy of Maven Central at Google. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Additionally Igor has an implementation for logging during > >> > concurrent > >> > >>>>>>>> builds based on Logback that I would really like to use, and > >> the > >> > color > >> > >>>>>>>> logging is also easy with Logback. I do not want to use > >> something > >> > that > >> > >>>>>> the > >> > >>>>>>>> community at large has not adopted. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> Again, anyone is welcome to the code and/or the data if they > >> > want to > >> > >>>>>>>> verify this themselves. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>> I also am not interested in a debate so if we disagree then > >> just > >> > >>>> leave > >> > >>>>>>>> the simple implementation in place. I’m not philosophically > >> > motivated > >> > >>>>>> much > >> > >>>>>>>> here in these discussions but I’m vehemently opposed to > >> > integrating > >> > >>>>>> Log4J2. > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Arnaud Héritier < > >> > [email protected]> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for this valuable comment Jason :( > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jason van Zyl < > >> [email protected]> > >> > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -1 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Do not merge this branch. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:05 AM, Tibor Digana < > >> > [email protected]> > >> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you plan a Release Version to merge this branch o > >> master in > >> > >>>>>> Maven? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Arnaud Héritier [via > >> Maven] < > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because only 2.4 was available when I updated this > >> > feature > >> > >>>>>>>> branch > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> few > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2016, Gary Gregory <[hidden email] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:// > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=0>> > >> a > >> > >>>> écrit : > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not update the Log4j 2 dep from 2.4 to 2.5? > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Arnaud Héritier > <[hidden > >> > email] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=1> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fixed this in the branch : > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commits/slf4j-log4j2.4 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the update I did after my old blog post : > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[hidden > >> > email] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=2> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Holidays. > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the next version of Maven be rid of this warning: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] The SLF4J binding actually used is not > >> supported by > >> > >>>>>> Maven: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Maven supported bindings are: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] (from > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > >> > jar:file:/E:/Java/apache-maven-3.3.9/bin/../lib/maven-embedder-3.3.9.jar!/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties) > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ch.qos.logback.classic.LoggerContext > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactory > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a step I am missing to use Log4j 2 cleanly? > My > >> > steps > >> > >>>>>> are > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> here: > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > https://garygregory.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/watch-maven-in-color/ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [hidden email] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=3> > >> > >>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> | [hidden > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> email] <http:// > >> > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=4> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition < > >> > >>>>>> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/ > >> > >>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action < > >> http://www.manning.com/templier/> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [hidden email] > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=5> > >> > >>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> | [hidden > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> email] <http:// > >> > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=6> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition < > >> > >>>> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/ > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action < > http://www.manning.com/templier/ > >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier 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http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> -- > >> > >>>>>>> ----- > >> > >>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier > >> > >>>>>>> http://aheritier.net > >> > >>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > >> > >>>>>>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> Jason > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>> Jason van Zyl > >> > >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Thanks, > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Jason > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>> Jason van Zyl > >> > >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >> > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> > >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> 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>> > > >> > Jason > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Jason van Zyl > >> > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> > http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ----- > > Arnaud Héritier > > http://aheritier.net > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier > > > -- ----- Arnaud Héritier http://aheritier.net Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : aheritier
