On 19 October 2016 at 12:37, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:

> Le lundi 17 octobre 2016 20:58:16 Stephen Connolly a écrit :
> > Could you at least raise the issues that you see as blocking Gossip
> against
> > it. I presume you have them currently in your context and it would be
> good
> > to capture them now so that if somebody can add those features to Gossip
> > (assuming they are aligned with the direction Gossip wants to go) then we
> > can reconsider?
> ok, let's do it once again: logging configuration with CLI and relative
> timestamp (initial mail from this thread)
> see "relative timestamp" in http://mail-archives.apache.
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Did you raise that issue against Gossip (I see the issue management says
where to create issues:
https://github.com/jdillon/gossip/blob/0aa3da715a0d92369a0398b71131186c350fc793/pom.xml#L57-L60)...
I do not see any issues there: https://github.com/jdillon/gossip/issues


>
>
> >
> > I see this change as more of a feature gap that would have blocked the
> > release, not a rejection of the proposal to switch to Gossip
> in fact, it's a rejection of any change that does not have at least all
> features of slf4j-simple (without having a precise list of features)
>
> I think I'll go with this monkey-patched slf4j simple provider: that's the
> safest and is maintainable. NOthing prevents us to switch later if useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> >
> > On Monday 17 October 2016, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> > > adding some rendering code like supported by Gossip, and eventually
> adding
> > > the
> > > rendering feature to slf4j-simple seemed sufficiently easy to give it a
> > > try:
> > > done and was as easy as expected
> > >
> > > Now, adding every slf4j-simple feature to Gossip require more work
> (it's
> > > not
> > > simply about rendering: need to really dig into code), and is not
> > > guaranteed
> > > to give smooth experience for everybody: the two missing features that
> > > were
> > > reported clearly are perhaps the first two of a long list. Jason told
> that
> > > these updates should be feasible, but seemed nobody really tried.
> > >
> > >
> > > This option of keeping usual slf4j-simple with a little patch seems
> > > currently
> > > not foolish
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le lundi 17 octobre 2016 06:49:21 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> > > > So your approach was to fork some code, instead of trying to fix
> Gossip?
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > > > haven’t been paying much attention just trying to understand why you
> > >
> > > would
> > >
> > > > fork instead of working with Jason Dillon to get that added? Did he
> not
> > > > respond or you couldn’t make a PR?
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 17, 2016, at 1:11 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr
> > >
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mirko,
> > > > >
> > > > > short answer: yes
> > > > >
> > > > > more precise answer:
> > > > > Gossip slf4j provider does not have color feature but has
> extensible
> > > > > Renderer interface which permits to inject Maven colorized renderer
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > with one configuration line [2]
> > > > >
> > > > > In maven-slf4j-simple, I copied the same Maven colorized renderer
> code
> > >
> > > [3]
> > >
> > > > > and injected it in slf4j simple through a Groovy script to patch
> slf4j
> > > > > simple source code [4]: not as straightforward than one
> fonciguration
> > > > > line, but same effect with clean separation of Maven-specific
> > > > > extension
> > > > > code to support colorized output with Maven styles
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hervé
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/maven-> >
> > > embedder/src/main/java/
> > >
> > > > > org/apache/maven/cli/logging/impl/gossip/ColorRenderer.java
> > > > >
> > > > > [2]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/maven-> >
> > > embedder/src/main/resou
> > >
> > > > > rces/META-INF/com.planet57.gossip/config.properties#L29
> > > > >
> > > > > [3]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/MNG-6093/maven-> >
> > > slf4j-provider/src/ma
> > >
> > > > > in/java/org/slf4j/impl/MavenSimpleLogger.java
> > > > >
> > > > > [4]
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/MNG-6093/maven-> >
> > > slf4j-provider/src/ma
> > >
> > > > > in/script/patch-slf4j-simple.groovy>
> > > > >
> > > > > Le lundi 17 octobre 2016 07:00:50 Mirko Friedenhagen a écrit :
> > > > >> Hello Hervé,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I would like a simple approach here. If I understand it correctly,
> > >
> > > gossip
> > >
> > > > >> was chosen because of its color capability. If we could have this
> > >
> > > without
> > >
> > > > >> switching the log provider it would be a good thing IMO. Gossip
> seems
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> unconfigurable by means of system properties, which is a pity.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >> Mirko
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Jason Dillon started the Maven output color work by providing us
> a
> > > > >>> Gossip
> > > > >>> slf4j provider renderer adapted to Maven context: thanks Jason
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Then current master uses Gossip slf4j provider by default with
> this
> > > > >>> customization.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Given there were feedback from people finding the change
> disturbing
> > >
> > > vs
> > >
> > > > >>> usual
> > > > >>> slf4j simple provider (some are just about changing habits, some
> are
> > > > >>> about
> > > > >>> missing features like logging configuration with CLI and relative
> > > > >>> timestamp),
> > > > >>> I tried another approach: patch slf4j simple provider to add
> > > > >>> Maven-specific
> > > > >>> rendering features.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The result is available on MNG-6093 branch with
> maven-slf4j-provider
> > > > >>> module
> > > > >>> addition [1]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I didn't really try to add features or extensions to slf4j
> Gossip.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> What is the best option for Maven: try to improve slf4j Gossip or
> > > > >>> use
> > > > >>> this
> > > > >>> slf4j simple patched version?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hervé
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/maven/tree/MNG-6093/maven-> >
> > > slf4j-provider
> > >
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> > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
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