Arnaud, are you talking about a Maven 3.0.4 release with "Eclipse Aether+Sisu" or with "Sonatype Aether+Sisu"?
/Anders 2011/8/19 Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]>: > I'm thinking like Jason. If we wanted we to release 3.0.4 without Aether we > should have done that 2 or 3 weeks ago (I think Wagon 1.0 was already ready > ?). > I'm almost sure that Jason will convince Eclipse to keep the current > identity of these projects (at least for a period of time to let him > schedule a migration perhaps for a next major release of them). > Thus we might able to work on a 3.0.4 release with everything at the end of > next week. > I would like also to release early/often and I really dislike that our team > never succeeded to do it (it goes with various wrong project management part > like having a Roadmap and things like that). > But in that case I think we should wait for 1 week as I know us and the next > one will never be done one week later.... > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As long as we reach consensus about whether we should release. At this >> point we've wait this long, if we were going to release 3.0.4 sans Aether >> 1.12 we should have done it a month ago. Right now the best thing for users >> is to make the best possible release and that includes Aether 1.12 which >> poses no risk to anyone at this point. >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> >> > There is more beyond that. Remember that we also upgraded to wagon-1.0 >> which had some _serious_ fixes, etc. + upgrade to the new apache parent and >> other stuff which have been no maven-core part directly, but got fixed >> subsequently. >> > >> > LieGrue, >> > strub >> > >> > --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now with the old aether >> >> To: "Maven Developers List" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:45 AM >> >> I think we should wait for the vote >> >> to finish as it appears the vote will pass and then a >> >> release can be made that users actually want. That fixes are >> >> are most requested fall into the category of requiring the >> >> newer versions of Aether and Sisu. >> >> >> >> I'm certain users would be more interested in having a >> >> version with Aether 1.12 which has been released. So if we >> >> don't want to cut a release with that in it then waiting >> >> another month, I believe, is better than rushing out some >> >> release now with 6 fixes which are minor and making all >> >> users drop in libraries themselves to fix the issues that >> >> are hurting them most. If we want to wait for official >> >> Eclipse releases then we should just wait. >> >> >> >> Users who are on the dev list feel free to chime in. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Summary of the issues >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not >> >> download snapshots (and break local builds) >> >> [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for encrypted passwords >> >> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site >> >> generation >> >> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked >> >> multi module builds >> >> [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with >> >> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 >> >> [MNG-5135][6] Regression: in some cases aggregator mojo is >> >> unable to resolve dependencies with custom packaging >> >> >> >> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on >> >> fixes in Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu: >> >> >> >> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes >> >> StackOverflowError in groovy >> >> [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR >> >> file. >> >> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing >> >> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until >> >> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by >> >> maven-invoker-plugin) are deleted >> >> [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with >> >> a large number of dependencies >> >> [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are extremely opaque >> >> >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> >> >> >>> I think the outcome of the other vote doesn't change >> >> much. >> >>> The following scenarios are possible: >> >>> >> >>> a.) The vote fails and maven stays at aether 1.11. In >> >> this case we still should ship a 3.0.4 to fix a few bugs on >> >> our side. >> >>> >> >>> b.) The vote passes and aether @eclipse must change >> >> package names + GAV then it will certainly take a bit time >> >> on both sides. So users still could upgrade to aether-1.12 >> >> manually if they want. >> >>> >> >>> c.) The vote passes and aether GAV and package names >> >> are allowed to remain com.sonatype.* In this case users >> >> might also manually update if they want. >> >>> >> >>> In any case we should ship maven-3.0.5 once there is a >> >> new aether version shipped by the Eclipse Foundation AND we >> >> did run sufficient tests with this version on our side. >> >>> >> >>> LieGrue, >> >>> strub >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> From: Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now >> >> with the old aether >> >>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <[email protected]> >> >>>> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:09 AM >> >>>> Mark, >> >>>> >> >>>> I think you're jumping the gun a bit. The vote >> >> that Arnaud >> >>>> proposed is not finished yet. Many PMC members >> >> have not >> >>>> voted yet and at the very least to short-circuit >> >> the vote we >> >>>> need to reach a majority amongst the PMC. Once >> >> that happens >> >>>> then I think we can start discussing a 3.0.4 >> >> release. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi folks! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I know aether @eclipse should be starting in >> >> the next >> >>>> weeks. But it will certainly take a few more weeks >> >> to get >> >>>> all the packages renamed (most probably), etc. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Should we create a 3.0.4 with the old aether >> >> package >> >>>> names now and start with the upgrade later? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> +1 from me. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> LieGrue, >> >>>>> strub >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Jason >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> Jason van Zyl >> >>>> Founder, Apache Maven >> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> >>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >> >>>> Simplex sigillum veri. 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