3/4 weeks ago we should/may have done a release of 3.0.4 with existing Aether/Sisu dependencies (thus yes existing ones are from Sonatype but are dual licensed ASL/EPL - or maybe full ASL I don't remember).
Arnaud On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote: > Arnaud, are you talking about a Maven 3.0.4 release with "Eclipse > Aether+Sisu" or with "Sonatype Aether+Sisu"? > > /Anders > > 2011/8/19 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>: > > I'm thinking like Jason. If we wanted we to release 3.0.4 without Aether > we > > should have done that 2 or 3 weeks ago (I think Wagon 1.0 was already > ready > > ?). > > I'm almost sure that Jason will convince Eclipse to keep the current > > identity of these projects (at least for a period of time to let him > > schedule a migration perhaps for a next major release of them). > > Thus we might able to work on a 3.0.4 release with everything at the end > of > > next week. > > I would like also to release early/often and I really dislike that our > team > > never succeeded to do it (it goes with various wrong project management > part > > like having a Roadmap and things like that). > > But in that case I think we should wait for 1 week as I know us and the > next > > one will never be done one week later.... > > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote: > > > >> As long as we reach consensus about whether we should release. At this > >> point we've wait this long, if we were going to release 3.0.4 sans > Aether > >> 1.12 we should have done it a month ago. Right now the best thing for > users > >> is to make the best possible release and that includes Aether 1.12 which > >> poses no risk to anyone at this point. > >> > >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> > >> > There is more beyond that. Remember that we also upgraded to wagon-1.0 > >> which had some _serious_ fixes, etc. + upgrade to the new apache parent > and > >> other stuff which have been no maven-core part directly, but got fixed > >> subsequently. > >> > > >> > LieGrue, > >> > strub > >> > > >> > --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote: > >> > > >> >> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now with the old aether > >> >> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> > >> >> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:45 AM > >> >> I think we should wait for the vote > >> >> to finish as it appears the vote will pass and then a > >> >> release can be made that users actually want. That fixes are > >> >> are most requested fall into the category of requiring the > >> >> newer versions of Aether and Sisu. > >> >> > >> >> I'm certain users would be more interested in having a > >> >> version with Aether 1.12 which has been released. So if we > >> >> don't want to cut a release with that in it then waiting > >> >> another month, I believe, is better than rushing out some > >> >> release now with 6 fixes which are minor and making all > >> >> users drop in libraries themselves to fix the issues that > >> >> are hurting them most. If we want to wait for official > >> >> Eclipse releases then we should just wait. > >> >> > >> >> Users who are on the dev list feel free to chime in. > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------ > >> >> Summary of the issues > >> >> ------------------------------------ > >> >> > >> >> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not > >> >> download snapshots (and break local builds) > >> >> [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for encrypted passwords > >> >> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site > >> >> generation > >> >> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked > >> >> multi module builds > >> >> [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with > >> >> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 > >> >> [MNG-5135][6] Regression: in some cases aggregator mojo is > >> >> unable to resolve dependencies with custom packaging > >> >> > >> >> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on > >> >> fixes in Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu: > >> >> > >> >> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes > >> >> StackOverflowError in groovy > >> >> [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR > >> >> file. > >> >> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing > >> >> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until > >> >> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by > >> >> maven-invoker-plugin) are deleted > >> >> [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with > >> >> a large number of dependencies > >> >> [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are extremely opaque > >> >> > >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I think the outcome of the other vote doesn't change > >> >> much. > >> >>> The following scenarios are possible: > >> >>> > >> >>> a.) The vote fails and maven stays at aether 1.11. In > >> >> this case we still should ship a 3.0.4 to fix a few bugs on > >> >> our side. > >> >>> > >> >>> b.) The vote passes and aether @eclipse must change > >> >> package names + GAV then it will certainly take a bit time > >> >> on both sides. So users still could upgrade to aether-1.12 > >> >> manually if they want. > >> >>> > >> >>> c.) The vote passes and aether GAV and package names > >> >> are allowed to remain com.sonatype.* In this case users > >> >> might also manually update if they want. > >> >>> > >> >>> In any case we should ship maven-3.0.5 once there is a > >> >> new aether version shipped by the Eclipse Foundation AND we > >> >> did run sufficient tests with this version on our side. > >> >>> > >> >>> LieGrue, > >> >>> strub > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now > >> >> with the old aether > >> >>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org> > >> >>>> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:09 AM > >> >>>> Mark, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I think you're jumping the gun a bit. The vote > >> >> that Arnaud > >> >>>> proposed is not finished yet. Many PMC members > >> >> have not > >> >>>> voted yet and at the very least to short-circuit > >> >> the vote we > >> >>>> need to reach a majority amongst the PMC. Once > >> >> that happens > >> >>>> then I think we can start discussing a 3.0.4 > >> >> release. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Hi folks! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I know aether @eclipse should be starting in > >> >> the next > >> >>>> weeks. But it will certainly take a few more weeks > >> >> to get > >> >>>> all the packages renamed (most probably), etc. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Should we create a 3.0.4 with the old aether > >> >> package > >> >>>> names now and start with the upgrade later? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> +1 from me. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> LieGrue, > >> >>>>> strub > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thanks, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Jason > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>> Jason van Zyl > >> >>>> Founder, Apache Maven > >> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> >>>> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Simplex sigillum veri. 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