3/4 weeks ago we should/may have done a release of 3.0.4 with existing
Aether/Sisu dependencies (thus yes existing ones are from Sonatype but are
dual licensed ASL/EPL - or maybe full ASL I don't remember).

Arnaud

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote:

> Arnaud, are you talking about a Maven 3.0.4 release with "Eclipse
> Aether+Sisu" or with "Sonatype Aether+Sisu"?
>
> /Anders
>
> 2011/8/19 Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>:
> > I'm thinking like Jason. If we wanted we to release 3.0.4 without Aether
> we
> > should have done that 2 or 3 weeks ago (I think Wagon 1.0 was already
> ready
> > ?).
> > I'm almost sure that Jason will convince Eclipse to keep the current
> > identity of these projects (at least for a period of time to let him
> > schedule a migration perhaps for a next major release of them).
> > Thus we might able to work on a 3.0.4 release with everything at the end
> of
> > next week.
> > I would like also to release early/often and I really dislike that our
> team
> > never succeeded to do it (it goes with various wrong project management
> part
> > like having a Roadmap and things like that).
> > But in that case I think we should wait for 1 week as I know us and the
> next
> > one will never be done one week later....
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
> >
> >> As long as we reach consensus about whether we should release. At this
> >> point we've wait this long, if we were going to release 3.0.4 sans
> Aether
> >> 1.12 we should have done it a month ago. Right now the best thing for
> users
> >> is to make the best possible release and that includes Aether 1.12 which
> >> poses no risk to anyone at this point.
> >>
> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> >>
> >> > There is more beyond that. Remember that we also upgraded to wagon-1.0
> >> which had some _serious_ fixes, etc. + upgrade to the new apache parent
> and
> >> other stuff which have been no maven-core part directly, but got fixed
> >> subsequently.
> >> >
> >> > LieGrue,
> >> > strub
> >> >
> >> > --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now with the old aether
> >> >> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> >> >> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:45 AM
> >> >> I think we should wait for the vote
> >> >> to finish as it appears the vote will pass and then a
> >> >> release can be made that users actually want. That fixes are
> >> >> are most requested fall into the category of requiring the
> >> >> newer versions of Aether and Sisu.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm certain users would be more interested in having a
> >> >> version with Aether 1.12 which has been released. So if we
> >> >> don't want to cut a release with that in it then waiting
> >> >> another month, I believe, is better than rushing out some
> >> >> release now with 6 fixes which are minor and making all
> >> >> users drop in libraries themselves to fix the issues that
> >> >> are hurting them most. If we want to wait for official
> >> >> Eclipse releases then we should just wait.
> >> >>
> >> >> Users who are on the dev list feel free to chime in.
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------
> >> >> Summary of the issues
> >> >> ------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not
> >> >> download snapshots (and break local builds)
> >> >> [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for encrypted passwords
> >> >> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site
> >> >> generation
> >> >> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked
> >> >> multi module builds
> >> >> [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with
> >> >> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3
> >> >> [MNG-5135][6] Regression: in some cases aggregator mojo is
> >> >> unable to resolve dependencies with custom packaging
> >> >>
> >> >> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on
> >> >> fixes in Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu:
> >> >>
> >> >> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes
> >> >> StackOverflowError in groovy
> >> >> [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR
> >> >> file.
> >> >> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing
> >> >> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until
> >> >> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by
> >> >> maven-invoker-plugin) are deleted
> >> >> [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with
> >> >> a large number of dependencies
> >> >> [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are extremely opaque
> >> >>
> >> >> On Aug 19, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I think the outcome of the other vote doesn't change
> >> >> much.
> >> >>> The following scenarios are possible:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> a.) The vote fails and maven stays at aether 1.11. In
> >> >> this case we still should ship a 3.0.4 to fix a few bugs on
> >> >> our side.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> b.) The vote passes and aether @eclipse must change
> >> >> package names + GAV then it will certainly take a bit time
> >> >> on both sides. So users still could upgrade to aether-1.12
> >> >> manually if they want.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> c.) The vote passes and aether GAV and package names
> >> >> are allowed to remain com.sonatype.* In this case users
> >> >> might also manually update if they want.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In any case we should ship maven-3.0.5 once there is a
> >> >> new aether version shipped by the Eclipse Foundation AND we
> >> >> did run sufficient tests with this version on our side.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> LieGrue,
> >> >>> strub
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- On Fri, 8/19/11, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] release maven-3.0.4 now
> >> >> with the old aether
> >> >>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> >> >>>> Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 11:09 AM
> >> >>>> Mark,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I think you're jumping the gun a bit. The vote
> >> >> that Arnaud
> >> >>>> proposed is not finished yet. Many PMC members
> >> >> have not
> >> >>>> voted yet and at the very least to short-circuit
> >> >> the vote we
> >> >>>> need to reach a majority amongst the PMC. Once
> >> >> that happens
> >> >>>> then I think we can start discussing a 3.0.4
> >> >> release.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hi folks!
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I know aether @eclipse should be starting in
> >> >> the next
> >> >>>> weeks. But it will certainly take a few more weeks
> >> >> to get
> >> >>>> all the packages renamed (most probably), etc.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Should we create a 3.0.4 with the old aether
> >> >> package
> >> >>>> names now and start with the upgrade later?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +1 from me.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >> >>>>> strub
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jason
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >> >>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> >>>>
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Simplex sigillum veri. (Simplicity is the seal of
> >> >> truth.)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jason
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> >> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know
> >> >> what you're talking about.
> >> >>
> >> >> -- John von Neumann
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
> >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
> >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
> >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
> >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
> >> signs of decline and decay.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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