That's exactly what I think too!! Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Manfred Moser" <[email protected]> > To: "Maven Developers List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:04:09 AM > Subject: Re: Release of Maven Indexer 5.0 > > On Wed, September 12, 2012 6:06 pm, Chris Graham wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Anders Hammar <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> I fully agree with you and I'm actually of the opinion that the > >> Java > >> community has a responsibility to provide enough reasons for those > >> on > >> older Java platforms to upgrade. But as long as we provide > >> libraries > >> > > > > Simple. > > > > Two reasons actually. > > > > Without going off on an essay about the psychology of developers > > and being > > obsessed with "shiny new things" (and a Dev centric view of the > > world)... > > > > 1. Cost. > > > > 2. Especially in the corporate world, they are far more concerned > > with > > function rather than form (ie the underlying technology). In short, > > if it > > works, leave it. Which also relates to #1. > > > > Case in point: My current project is a multi million dollar one > > that is > > *finally* moving from 5-7 YO tech to the newest stack. Partly due > > to the > > support issues, but mostly due to the cost of support of the older > > versions; it's finally become cheaper to upgrade than to continue > > paying > > the huge support costs. > > > > But my basic point is, that the act of upgrading large systems is > > not a > > cheap one, so it is NOT done lightly. > > I think that the cost is only so high because companies keep waiting > until > it is too painful. If you constantly keep upgrading a bit here and > there > and stay up to date with your operating systems, runtime > environments, > browsers and client site frameworks and so on you would actually be > able > to save a LOT of money in the long run. But you would have to > constantly > invest rather than waiting with no investment until things fall apart > and > then being forced to large costly upgrades. > > So it is mostly short sighted management and an absence of real > technology > leadership in organizations causing this problem imho. And forcing > the > pain to stay on old stuff higher (like Oracle is doing with > deprecating > Java 6 earlier) is actually a good thing. > > imho Maven 2 should have long been deprecated and removed from the > downloads pages.. > > just my 2c though ;-) > > manfred > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
