On Thu, September 13, 2012 6:52 am, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:04:09PM -0700, Manfred Moser wrote:

>> I think that the cost is only so high because companies keep waiting
>> until
>> it is too painful. If you constantly keep upgrading a bit here and there
>> and stay up to date with your operating systems, runtime environments,
>> browsers and client site frameworks and so on you would actually be able
>> to save a LOT of money in the long run. But you would have to constantly
>> invest rather than waiting with no investment until things fall apart
>> and
>> then being forced to large costly upgrades.
>
> I think this happens because the money you spend on upgrading and the
> money you save because of it are in two different pots.  If you look
> at the way budgeting works, you might find that the current behavior
> makes sense -- assuming that you accept that the way budgeting works,
> makes sense. :-/

Most of the time budgeting is also short sighted and without leadership..
so I dont accept that it makes sense .. sorry ;-)

>> So it is mostly short sighted management and an absence of real
>> technology
>> leadership in organizations causing this problem imho. And forcing the
>> pain to stay on old stuff higher (like Oracle is doing with deprecating
>> Java 6 earlier) is actually a good thing.
>>
>> imho Maven 2 should have long been deprecated and removed from the
>> downloads pages..
>
> Tell the distro.s.  Gentoo still has Maven 3 keyworded on all arches,
> and Gentoo is one of the bleeding-edge, daily-updating distro.s.  I'll
> be using M3 for production work the day after they take the ~amd64
> keyword off it.

Dont use the package supplied by the distro then. Use the upstream release.

manfred


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