The changes have only been in the simple logger implementation, not the api itself.
On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > To be honest. Slf4J is really mature. The fact that we need some 'special > treatment' for maven worries me. > Are we are trying to do things with slf4j-simple it never was intended for? > Again: I think sjf4j is really mature, so I guess the error is on our side. > And you also mentioned that Ceki did special changes in slf4j _itself_ and > not only the simple logger? That worries me even more, what changes have that > been? > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> >> To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org> >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:33 AM >> Subject: Re: Logging >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: >> >>> trying to be concise and neutral >>> >>> 1. because slf4j-api is well known, it has lots of back-ends, that will >>> provide powerfull configuration techniques for filtering, display, >> recording and >>> so on Maven output: precise use case still need to be described >>> >>> 2. the discussion is not much about the api but about the default back-end >>> that will be shipped with Maven: there is no consensus, then the actual >>> strategy is to start with slf4j-simple in Maven 3.1.0 then have a vote to >>> choose which more complete implementation will go in Maven 3.1.1+ >>> >> >> We're blocked on using SLF4J Simple currently. We can wait for my patches to >> be reviewed, but we should probably start the vote for the implementation if >> that is what we require because after making several patches already I think >> it's just time to pick an implementation. As I said in my previous email >> we're so close to Christmas we might as well decide this and then fire up >> the release process in the new year after the logging implementation >> selection >> is made. It's highly unlikely that in the next few weeks testing a new >> version of Maven is going to be anyone's priority so we might as well take >> our time at this point. >> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Hervé >>> >>> Le dimanche 9 décembre 2012 22:18:51 Chris Graham a écrit : >>>> I got lost (in other work) and this thread a long time ago. >>>> >>>> Can someone please remind me just why we are changing the logging at >> all? >>>> >>>> -Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Kristian Rosenvold < >>>> >>>> kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> 2012/12/9 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>: >>>>>> Perso I'm fine using log4j2. >>>>>> I use the branch I pushed for some weeks now and I'm happy. >>>>>> Log4j2 has quickly added a feature I needed and release it. >>>>>> Furthermore I'm fine working with an Apache community in >> case of any >>>>>> issue we could have. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not entirely sure I follow where this discussion is >> actually >>>>> going, but I'm firmly opposed >>>>> to including a brand new logging framework as default in m3. >>>>> >>>>> Kristian >>>>> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder & CTO, Sonatype >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our worth. >> >> -- Unknown >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder & CTO, Sonatype Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith