Color != modern logging API :p... Le 9 déc. 2012 16:37, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit :
> It looks others don't want modern stuff. > So not a problem. During my life I have used ed, vi then vim or emacs > now an IDE. > Those last ones make me see "la vie en rose" with some colors. > BTW I still like vi maybe Keep It So Simple pattern or I'm too old for > too much modern stuff :-) > > Regarding "immature" I think we have previously based our maven core > on "immature" stuff. If immature means "young libraries build by > experimented and efficient folks". > > But community/consensus/majority decide. > > So even if I'm a French guy (those kind of folks who usually grumble a > lot :-) ), I will stop complaining (at least I can configure my local > installation with my preferred mode). > > Cheers > -- > Olivier > > > 2012/12/9 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > > Hi guys, > > > > Simple, log4j, logback...nobody cares about jdk? It is far better than > > simple and enough by default avoiding log4j/logback issue...then the > > question would rather be why slf4j since JUL is enough and can be the API > > as in cxf, owb etc... > > Le 9 déc. 2012 16:18, "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@tesla.io> a écrit : > > > >> I agree. I don't believe it's reasonable path to pick an immature > library > >> for the core given the existence of Logback. > >> > >> Arnaud, I believe you felt the same way? > >> > >> I honestly gave SLF4J Simple a good run and pushed it with Ceki to make > it > >> do more than originally intended but I don't think it makes sense to > push > >> anymore. > >> > >> If other committers have an opinion let's please get this sorted out. > >> > >> On Dec 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Kristian Rosenvold < > >> kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > 2012/12/9 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>: > >> >> Perso I'm fine using log4j2. > >> >> I use the branch I pushed for some weeks now and I'm happy. > >> >> Log4j2 has quickly added a feature I needed and release it. > >> >> Furthermore I'm fine working with an Apache community in case of any > >> >> issue we could have. > >> > > >> > I'm not entirely sure I follow where this discussion is actually > >> > going, but I'm firmly opposed > >> > to including a brand new logging framework as default in m3. > >> > > >> > Kristian > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jason van Zyl > >> Founder & CTO, Sonatype > >> Founder, Apache Maven > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track > >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget > >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful > >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a > >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as > >> signs of decline and decay. > >> > >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >