It looks others don't want modern stuff. So not a problem. During my life I have used ed, vi then vim or emacs now an IDE. Those last ones make me see "la vie en rose" with some colors. BTW I still like vi maybe Keep It So Simple pattern or I'm too old for too much modern stuff :-)
Regarding "immature" I think we have previously based our maven core on "immature" stuff. If immature means "young libraries build by experimented and efficient folks". But community/consensus/majority decide. So even if I'm a French guy (those kind of folks who usually grumble a lot :-) ), I will stop complaining (at least I can configure my local installation with my preferred mode). Cheers -- Olivier 2012/12/9 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>: > Hi guys, > > Simple, log4j, logback...nobody cares about jdk? It is far better than > simple and enough by default avoiding log4j/logback issue...then the > question would rather be why slf4j since JUL is enough and can be the API > as in cxf, owb etc... > Le 9 déc. 2012 16:18, "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@tesla.io> a écrit : > >> I agree. I don't believe it's reasonable path to pick an immature library >> for the core given the existence of Logback. >> >> Arnaud, I believe you felt the same way? >> >> I honestly gave SLF4J Simple a good run and pushed it with Ceki to make it >> do more than originally intended but I don't think it makes sense to push >> anymore. >> >> If other committers have an opinion let's please get this sorted out. >> >> On Dec 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Kristian Rosenvold < >> kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > 2012/12/9 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>: >> >> Perso I'm fine using log4j2. >> >> I use the branch I pushed for some weeks now and I'm happy. >> >> Log4j2 has quickly added a feature I needed and release it. >> >> Furthermore I'm fine working with an Apache community in case of any >> >> issue we could have. >> > >> > I'm not entirely sure I follow where this discussion is actually >> > going, but I'm firmly opposed >> > to including a brand new logging framework as default in m3. >> > >> > Kristian >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder & CTO, Sonatype >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as >> signs of decline and decay. >> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
