Hello everyone,

As quiet observer of this project, I would truly like to see this project 
continued as it provides a great alternative to commercial certificate 
authorities (CA's) for trust. 

After the issues with Symantec (and other CA's) that came out last year, I 
think we are overdue for a functional alternative, which I feel Milagro has the 
potential to fill.


Thomas Falk
-----Original Message-----
From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:54 AM
To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire Milagro

Hello everybody,
do you have any python demos to show up? We have a Python meetup here in
BCN, i could evangelist the project to the next meetup.
Best Regards,

2018-04-10 10:12 GMT+02:00 Simeon Aladjem <simeon.alad...@miracl.com>:

> -1
> There is a good will to return the project to a normal track, and scope it
> around the crypto only.
> Yes, there has been some infrastructural and procedural reasons for
> "forking" the crypto code outside Apache and commit the mass of development
> to that fork,
> but the newest code will eventually be committed back to Apache together
> with reorganizing the repositories, which will revive the project.
> I believe that a little bit more time is required to figure out the tiny
> details for doing the above, as some mentor's help will be required too.
> Kind Regards,
> Simeon Aladjem
> ´╗┐On 10/4/18, 10:30, "Go Yamamoto" <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>     Hi Nick,
>     I agree the infrastructure problem you have pointed out have been
> blocking
>     the initial commit, and it blocks everything toward the release.  To
> solve
>     the problem, I think all what we need is the operational management at
> the
>     official github repo.  It is hard to solve the problem technologically
>     because Miracl's engineering team (and ours too) want to use CI tools,
> and
>     it means OAuth grants for access by the CI tools must be managed at the
>     repository on which they work.
>     We NTT request to allow for contributors to work at their own fork
>     repository.  All the changes on the code happens at local fork
> repositories
>     owned by each contributor, however, the changes at local fork will be
>     pull-requested to the official repo, and the operation team at the
> official
>     repo will review the pull-request and merge it to the official.
>     If this workflow is OK for everybody here, NTT would like to take the
> effort
>     of operational tasks and managements on the official repo at least
> until we
>     reach the first release.
>     I sincerely hope this proposal would contribute in resolving the
> blocker.
>     Please feel free to share your concerns if any.
>     Regards,
>     Go Yamamoto
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Nick Kew [mailto:n...@apache.org]
>     Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 8:07 AM
>     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire Milagro
>     On Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:16:09 +0000
>     "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>     > All,
>     >
>     > This is a call to vote to retire the Milagro podling.
>     +-0.  Subject to change in either direction.
>     For a long time, this project has not been happening at Apache, and on
> that
>     basis retirement seems appropriate.
>     My past attempts to prod it have met with no response[1].
>     On the other hand, some more promising activity has recently been seen
> on
>     this list, notably with the arrival of NTT folks and an active
> newcomer who
>     I've only just realised isn't an initial committer from the Miracl
> team!
>     I have been meaning for some time to try once more to prod it and
> would be
>     reluctant to vote for retirement before doing so.
>     I've been doing battle with a failing internet connection, but I've now
>     parted company with the ISP in question.
>     So hopefully I'll now be fine to review all list traffic since [1] and
> post
>     thoughts within 24 hours.
>     > Here are the documented problems:
>     >
>     > - Development does not happen at Apache.  This is confirmed in
> changes
>     > like [1] where you are trying to repoint mirrors away from the Apache
>     > hosted repository into a Miracl hosted repository.
>     At the time the repos were created, there was an issue with folks
> being less
>     than happy with the level of github integration then available.  I
> touched
>     on this in [1], but should no doubt have been clearer.  IF THERE ARE
>     > - No board report submitted for months.
>     Indeed, someone from the team needs to take responsibility.
>     In the early days I did too much of this myself, but it's not supposed
> to be
>     a mentor task!
>     [1] Most recently
>     http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/milagro-dev/
> 201711.mbox/%3C15102433
>     30.26629.45.camel%40mimir.webthing.com%3E
>     --
>     Nick Kew

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