+0.5 to the code -0.9 as a new top level project. I really would prefer to see this in commons or orchestra as the MyFaces project is already confusing at first to users due to the number of top level projects.
Also, what is up with the name? It doesn't seem to relate to what it does. Also has there been any thought on how this will play with existing Hibernate applications and how compatible it is if the bean validation framework JSR goes through as something pretty similar to what Hibernate already has? -Andrew On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 > > regards > > Leonardo Uribe > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello cagatay, > > > > you would still benefit in the cases you mentioned, if there would be an > optional cross-component client-side validation support. > > -> in such a case we wouldn't reinvent the wheel. > > + complex client-side validation would be independent of the component lib > you are using. > > > > however, client-side sev-en validation isn't implemented at the moment > > (and it isn't clear, if there will be such a feature. there will be a > separated discussion about such topics). > > it was just a question in view of your orchestra comment. > > -> so let's just continue the vote. (thank you for attending the vote - i > noticed: your position hasn't changed so far.) > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > in the near future i'll think about client side validation support. > > > > > > Sorry but no:) This is what I'm talking about actually, every subproject > has the potential of reinventing the wheel and overlap with already > implemented features in other myfaces subprojects. > > > > > > Trinidad has it; > > > > http://www.irian.at/trinidad-demo/faces/convertValidate/clientConvert.jspx > > > > > > Tomahawk Sandbox has it; > > > http://www.irian.at/myfaces-sandbox/clientValidationWithStandardForm.jsf > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Cagatay > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > hello cagatay, > > > > > > > > in the near future i'll think about client side validation support. > > > > -> does this change your opinion? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/20, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > My mind hasn't changed since the last discussion so it's still -1 > for a stand-alone project because in my opinion every goodie, extension > etc...) that doesn't render anything should join orchestra. > > > > > > > > > > We might end up with a subproject hell that's hard to maintain if we > create a subproject for each jsf extension. > > > > > > > > > > Orchestra core15 module is a nice place for sev-en. > > > > > > > > > > Cagatay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Werner Punz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ok Gerhard my apologies then if all of this is discussed out > > > > > > then a clear +1 > > > > > > from my side. > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerhard Petracek schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello werner, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your additional hint. > > > > > > > however, we already discussed this topic and there are several > arguments against the integration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this vote is just about sev-en as a stand-alone sub-project of > myfaces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (aspect-el is a different topic. so let's have a separated > vote.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/20, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 but one addition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since we already have an extension api project > > > > > > > wouldnt it be better to be integrated into orchestra > > > > > > > I think since orchestra is not a scope project although > > > > > > > its main area is scoping that sev-en should belong in there. > > > > > > > Think about that, I think orchestra might be the perfect > place > > > > > > > for things like sev-en and/or aspect-el > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerhard Petracek schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as requested i published the source code of the sev-en > preview > > > > > > > some days ago (details at: [1]). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we discussed whether or not we should start a new myfaces > > > > > > > sub-project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so let's vote! > > > > > > > (there will be a separated discussion + vote concerning > the name.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > [ ] +1 for: sev-en should become a myfaces sub-project > > > > > > > [ ] +0 > > > > > > > [ ] -1 for: sev-en shouldn't become a myfaces sub-project > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > http://www.nabble.com/-proposal--jsf-validation-with-annotations-to16483341.html#a16747103 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >
