On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 07:41, Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > Could a consensus solution be that for all JDK 8 - compatibility > related items, any/all work related to that, we assign those issues to > Svata -- and we try this for one release and see how that goes? If it > fails, then in the release after that, we should all then have > consensus to move away from JDK 8. > > This does not solve the question of when we'll stop supporting a > particular JDK release -- except that it sounds like "forever, as long > as someone turns up to continue to support that release and in fact > does so".
Unfortunately this assumes that the workload for continuing to support JDK 8 (or any future legacy JDK) is something that is neatly encapsulated and doesn't permeate everything. We've had at least 4 different threads I can think of on this since the beginning of this year alone. This is the culmination of a lot of discussion, but no further sign of resolution. There are 3 -1's on this thread. There is no requirement for people to express support, but there are 16 people supporting this here alone (7x PMC, 3x committers, 6x community). That does not include the PMC and community members who have +1'd the basis of this proposal on other threads already (I'm not aware of any other -1?). As pointed out above, ASF consensus is not unanimity, it is finding "widespread agreement". If this situation was reversed, would we take a proposal with only 3 people supporting it against a large proportion of our community as sign of widespread agreement to take a course of action? I agree with Michael and Laszlo, the right (as in, at ASF) and only feasible option is to vote and resolve this now, and I intend to proceed with that as originally planned. Because the alternative, the thought of spending another 3 months engaged in yet more draining and damaging discussion, knocking more chunks out of each other, just makes me want to walk away today. Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists