Yes, I do remember Schliemann from long ago...
Although this is not about bringing back .NBS files as much as
integrating what already is out there ("word files" and such), even if
it doesn't cover all the NetBeans features.
> We really need such simpler method to bring a new language to NetBeans
This is just a basic way to allowing text editing.
Note that NetBeans is an *IDE* that also has an editor. People
generally expect more advanced features from an IDE than basic syntax
highlighting. An IDE generally does some *semantic* and project-wide
analysis.
But if I do use NetBeans for a Java project, it might be nice if it
has some basic Groovy support, although I would have to install the
proper Groovy plugins for heavy work.
--emi
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Christian Lenz <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Problem is, what I think, to find or create such files by my self. I
> searched for months to find a C# grammar file for JavaCC. There isn’t so I
> used the Java and changed some stuff. Very error related because I don’t know
> much about grammar stuff.
>
> Now I will rewrite my Plugin to ANTLR, because I found a proper C#.g4 file
> and will have a look whether it is better or not, but I think it is. So if
> you want to implement Haskell or F# to NB you need those files too and I
> think, to use a similar functionality what other IDEs/Editors alredas have
> would be better, because such user defined files are already there, look into
> the list for NotePad++:
> http://docs.notepad-plus-plus.org/index.php/User_Defined_Language_Files sor
> UltraEdit: https://www.ultraedit.com/downloads/extras/wordfiles.html
>
> Not to missunderstand here. We really need such simpler method to bring a new
> language to NetBeans but we should use similar technics like other
> IDEs/Editors already do. So we can use the great list of user defined files
> from other IDEs/Editors.
>
>
> Von: Peter Blemel
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Juni 2017 17:13
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Provide basic editor features for more file types out of
> thebox[WAS: Re: AW: Introductory Email]
>
>
> I do. I wrote both of my editors in Schliemann, and then re-wrote them when
> it was abandoned. There was some discussion at the time about why it was
> unsupportable, or perhaps just obsolete but I don't remember the details.
> However, that experience is part of why I am proposing an "editor generator"
> instead of another scripting language.
>
>
> When developing a JavaCC or ANTLR grammar most tools require you to write the
> grammar first, in text, and then provide tools for visual representation. As
> a software developer I have found this process to be tedious and error prone,
> and a lot of important meta data is lost. I propose to reverse the process,
> using a data model that can be manipulated by visual editing tools to model
> the language (and editor features), from which code can be generated and
> maintained. Additional plugins could be written that do other things with the
> model.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sven Reimers <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 9:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Provide basic editor features for more file types out of the
> box[WAS: Re: AW: Introductory Email]
>
> Who can remember Schliemann Project in NetBeans?
>
> Sven
>
> Am 19.06.2017 1:08 nachm. schrieb "Emilian Bold" <[email protected]>:
>
>> In theory adding LSP support should be just as easy since the server does
>> all the heavy lifting.
>>
>> But if we want to have for example Erlang syntax highlighting, etc. in the
>> first case we just add another 10kb configuration file. In the second case
>> we have to find and ship an Erlang LSP server.
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> Pe 19 iun. 2017, la 12:13, ehsavoie <[email protected]> a scris:
>>
>> > LSP is an API so you would 'only' have to start a process and connect to
>> it
>> > (through input/output stream mostly).
>> > From my point of view a LSP editor is the generic editor you are talking
>> > about, and the LSP server is the file you are loading from.
>> > The advantage is that you have a quick more advanced support of a lot of
>> > languages without even having to support them while you would have to
>> > support every file you are providing.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > Emmanuel Hugonnet
>> > http://www.ehsavoie.com
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