@banee as I mentioned it in some other Posts of me, that was done with Ruby and 
UML and what happens to them? Ruby is working but not really developed further 
and UML is Kind of dead. easyUML is not that good and well maintained. But as 
Geertjan said, SVN will still there. 


Von: Banee Ishaque
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:37
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN

A suggestion : Remove SVN from core - and make it available as a official
plug in.Then if we need SVN - simply add a plug in is enough.

In years ago - I used SVN and hg for VCS. But now git overriding them in my
projects.

On 11 Mar 2018 23:57, "Stephen Stewart" <sstewart...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a Netbeans user I use SVN every day. Please do not remove it.
> Cheers,
> Stephen Stewart
>
> On 11 March 2018 at 19:26, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not aware of any problem at all with Subversion in NetBeans -- I
> think
> > this discussion started with David Heffelfinger trying to gauge the
> > popularity and relevance of Subversion and CVS in NetBeans, for purposes
> of
> > prioritizing them for NetCAT testing. Looks to me like Subversion has
> > always been treated of equal priority to Git and Mercurial in NetBeans,
> > while that's less the case for CVS, just a lower priority in terms of how
> > much time is spent testing it as part of NetCAT.
> >
> > Also, those who care a lot about Subversion or CVS, or anything else,
> e.g.,
> > Git or Mercurial, should sign up to the NetCAT program to give feedback
> and
> > input etc.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As I understand it right, the SVN Support is still available in
> NetBeans,
> > > but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems.
> > > Von: Emilian Bold
> > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15
> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN
> > >
> > > Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion? I
> > > just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it.
> > >
> > > From what Jan mentions, only a Java SVN library was dropped but I think
> > we
> > > can still have Subversion support by calling the svn native binary?
> > >
> > > Obviously, being still in use and another Apache project means it would
> > be
> > > nice to provide Subversion support. From the looks of it we still do,
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > PS: As somebody that after many many years of Mercurial and Git had to
> > > commit to SVN, I found `git svn` entirely usable! So... there's also
> that
> > > option.
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > >
> > > On 8 March 2018 6:54 PM, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > FWIW, IIRC, NetBeans is using different backends to work with SVN
> > > >
> > > > repositories, and one of the backends is has a license\[1\] that is
> > > >
> > > > possibly/probably incompatible with an Apache project, so that one
> was
> > > >
> > > > excluded:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/commit/
> > > e32f86aeecc1b0bb890ff95ed7e1c31c6da25cb6
> > > >
> > > > Other (2) backends remain. The backends are AFAIK pluggable, so it
> > should
> > > >
> > > > be possible to install the excluded backend as a separate module.
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > > >
> > > > \[1\] the licenses are in libs.svnClientAdapter.svnkit/external
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Antonio anto...@vieiro.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to
> > > licensing
> > > > >
> > > > > issues. This has nothing to do with who uses subversion or not.
> > > FreeBSD, as
> > > > >
> > > > > an example, has been using/is using subversion successfully for
> > years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Antonio
> > > > >
> > > > > On 08/03/18 15:29, Paul Franz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > There has been a discussion going on in the NetBeans Users list
> > about
> > > > > >
> > > > > > removing support for SVN. And it was recommended to bring up the
> > > topic here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just to give me 2 cents into the thought of removing Subversion
> > > support
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from NetBeans. I am against it just because older FLOSS projects
> > and
> > > of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > course older internal projects for corporations use Subversion.
> So
> > I
> > > think
> > > > > >
> > > > > > removing support for Subversion from NetBeans would be a bad
> > overall
> > > move.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just so that you have a little background on me. I use ClearCase
> > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Subversion for the corporation I work for. For my personal
> projects
> > > located
> > > > > >
> > > > > > on BitBucket I use Mercurial. And for most part in both cases I
> use
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > command-line for most of my source code control interaction. So I
> > > know that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am an outlier, but my fellow developers need to GUIs to
> interact
> > > with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > source code control.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Franz
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Senior Principal Applications Engineer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oracle Transportation Management
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Forwarded message:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Claus Lüthje claus.luet...@thetop.ch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: Eduard i...@dejongfrz.nl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:08:24 +0100
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many customers I worked with here in Switzerland still use SVN,
> > > too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I completely understand the urge to leave SVN for eg Git, but
> > > reality is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > slower …
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Claus
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 08.03.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Eduard i...@dejongfrz.nl:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm using SVN.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would
> > greatly
> > > reduce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the usefulnes of NB for me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Eduard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > David Heffelfinger wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT
> > > organizers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan <
> > > brett.r...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > mailto:brett.r...@gmail.com\> wrote:
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