It is like rumors works. It is as it is. Some one said smth and everyone is 
thinking omg. Me too, but for me it is clear now.

Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:42
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN

I don't get it, at all. :-) Why on earth would we want to remove
Subversion? Again, this whole discussion started on users@ simply to see
who wants to work on testing of Subversion and CVS in the NetCAT program.

Thanks,

Gj

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>
wrote:

> @banee as I mentioned it in some other Posts of me, that was done with
> Ruby and UML and what happens to them? Ruby is working but not really
> developed further and UML is Kind of dead. easyUML is not that good and
> well maintained. But as Geertjan said, SVN will still there.
>
>
> Von: Banee Ishaque
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:37
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN
>
> A suggestion : Remove SVN from core - and make it available as a official
> plug in.Then if we need SVN - simply add a plug in is enough.
>
> In years ago - I used SVN and hg for VCS. But now git overriding them in my
> projects.
>
> On 11 Mar 2018 23:57, "Stephen Stewart" <sstewart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As a Netbeans user I use SVN every day. Please do not remove it.
> > Cheers,
> > Stephen Stewart
> >
> > On 11 March 2018 at 19:26, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not aware of any problem at all with Subversion in NetBeans -- I
> > think
> > > this discussion started with David Heffelfinger trying to gauge the
> > > popularity and relevance of Subversion and CVS in NetBeans, for
> purposes
> > of
> > > prioritizing them for NetCAT testing. Looks to me like Subversion has
> > > always been treated of equal priority to Git and Mercurial in NetBeans,
> > > while that's less the case for CVS, just a lower priority in terms of
> how
> > > much time is spent testing it as part of NetCAT.
> > >
> > > Also, those who care a lot about Subversion or CVS, or anything else,
> > e.g.,
> > > Git or Mercurial, should sign up to the NetCAT program to give feedback
> > and
> > > input etc.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Christian Lenz <
> christian.l...@gmx.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I understand it right, the SVN Support is still available in
> > NetBeans,
> > > > but the Problem was one of the components hase license Problems.
> > > > Von: Emilian Bold
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. März 2018 19:15
> > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: Re: Possible Removal of SVN
> > > >
> > > > Could the OP provide a link where it was decided to drop Subversion?
> I
> > > > just don't remember this talk. But, I might have missed it.
> > > >
> > > > From what Jan mentions, only a Java SVN library was dropped but I
> think
> > > we
> > > > can still have Subversion support by calling the svn native binary?
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, being still in use and another Apache project means it
> would
> > > be
> > > > nice to provide Subversion support. From the looks of it we still do,
> > > > correct?
> > > >
> > > > PS: As somebody that after many many years of Mercurial and Git had
> to
> > > > commit to SVN, I found `git svn` entirely usable! So... there's also
> > that
> > > > option.
> > > >
> > > > --emi
> > > >
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > >
> > > > On 8 March 2018 6:54 PM, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > FWIW, IIRC, NetBeans is using different backends to work with SVN
> > > > >
> > > > > repositories, and one of the backends is has a license\[1\] that is
> > > > >
> > > > > possibly/probably incompatible with an Apache project, so that one
> > was
> > > > >
> > > > > excluded:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/commit/
> > > > e32f86aeecc1b0bb890ff95ed7e1c31c6da25cb6
> > > > >
> > > > > Other (2) backends remain. The backends are AFAIK pluggable, so it
> > > should
> > > > >
> > > > > be possible to install the excluded backend as a separate module.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan
> > > > >
> > > > > \[1\] the licenses are in libs.svnClientAdapter.svnkit/external
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Antonio anto...@vieiro.net wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As far as I remember the support of svn in NetBeans was due to
> > > > licensing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > issues. This has nothing to do with who uses subversion or not.
> > > > FreeBSD, as
> > > > > >
> > > > > > an example, has been using/is using subversion successfully for
> > > years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Antonio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 08/03/18 15:29, Paul Franz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > There has been a discussion going on in the NetBeans Users list
> > > about
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > removing support for SVN. And it was recommended to bring up
> the
> > > > topic here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just to give me 2 cents into the thought of removing Subversion
> > > > support
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from NetBeans. I am against it just because older FLOSS
> projects
> > > and
> > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > course older internal projects for corporations use Subversion.
> > So
> > > I
> > > > think
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > removing support for Subversion from NetBeans would be a bad
> > > overall
> > > > move.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just so that you have a little background on me. I use
> ClearCase
> > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subversion for the corporation I work for. For my personal
> > projects
> > > > located
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > on BitBucket I use Mercurial. And for most part in both cases I
> > use
> > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > command-line for most of my source code control interaction.
> So I
> > > > know that
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am an outlier, but my fellow developers need to GUIs to
> > interact
> > > > with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > source code control.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul Franz
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Senior Principal Applications Engineer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oracle Transportation Management
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Forwarded message:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Claus Lüthje claus.luet...@thetop.ch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: Eduard i...@dejongfrz.nl
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cc: us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 15:08:24 +0100
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Many customers I worked with here in Switzerland still use
> SVN,
> > > > too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I completely understand the urge to leave SVN for eg Git, but
> > > > reality is
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > slower …
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Claus
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am 08.03.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Eduard i...@dejongfrz.nl:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm using SVN.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would
> > > greatly
> > > > reduce
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the usefulnes of NB for me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------
> ------------------------------
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Eduard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > David Heffelfinger wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT
> > > > organizers.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan <
> > > > brett.r...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > mailto:brett.r...@gmail.com\> wrote:
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